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[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

There was a moral imperative in 1948 & 1967 to support Israel against outside aggression who openly stated they wanted to end Israel. There’s now a moral imperative to protect Gazans and their land as was agreed to in Oslo II.

Enjoy your mess Joe, you sleepwalked into this one, crisis by crisis by believing Bibi unconditionally until very recently. Because now Egypt is getting testy:

Netanyahu’s words have also alarmed Egypt which has said that any ground operation in the Rafah area or mass displacement across the border would undermine its 40-year-old peace treaty with Israel. The mostly sealed Gaza-Egypt border is also the main entry point for humanitarian aid.

That’s a big fucking issue, if Egypt is throwing that language around I doubt Jordan is far behind them. I’ll say it again, is the alliance with Israel worth it, if it jeopardizes US relations with literally every other nation in the gulf?

[–] abuttandahalf@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 months ago (8 children)

There was a moral imperative to protect Israel when it was massacring and ethnically cleansing 750,000 Palestinians from their land in 1948? No. There was and continues to be a moral imperative to do everything in order to end the existence of the Zionist entity.

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[–] ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I hate Israel more than the next guy, but those nations likely wouldn't be sympathetic to the west's form of government anyways.

Israel is not a colony we created because we felt bad for Jewish people. Israel is a colony we created to be able to project power in the middle east.

So, it's not about getting Arab nations to like us. It's about having a place to park stealth bombers those countries don't have the technology to shoot down. It's about having a Mafia group willing to do our dirty work so we don't look that bad doing it

[–] mightyfoolish@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

A sad truth but this is the truth of Israel.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This sounds like the setup to an Onion article: "Biden calls Israel's response to Gaza, 'over the top.' Says that bombing of refugee camps, 'a bit much,' and the famine cause by aid blockades, 'really cringe.' At press time, President Biden was signing a bipartisan deal to send the Israeli military $20 billion in weapons."

[–] UmeU@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I think it was the great philosopher Eric Cartman who said it best

“You people who are for the war, you need the protesters. Because they make the country look like it's made of sane, caring individuals. And you people who are anti-war, you need these flag-wavers, because, if our whole country was made up of nothing but soft pussy protesters, we'd get taken down in a second. That's why the founding fathers decided we should have both. It's called "having your cake and eating it too."

Don’t get me wrong, I am definitely a soft pussy protestor, but Biden is clearly having his cake and eating it too.

[–] overzeetop@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I had nothing to do with it, damnit.

[–] CliveRosfield@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Wow he said a slightly negative sentence about the terrorists he promised to limitlessly fund that genocides brown people. If anybody was wondering why he's unpopular it's this shit.

[–] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (7 children)

The administration is clearly over Netanyahu, Blinken had some pretty strong comments on this week’s trip. He also met with Gantz, Eisenkot and Lapid so they’re clearly looking at the post-Netanyahu era.

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)
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