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https://web.archive.org/web/20240204211109/https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/04/russia-china-iran-could-target-uk-irish-backdoor-thinktank-warns

certified Guardian moment.

I did some further detective work too, that isn't particularly shocking - it's just how journalism works, but if you've never given it thought before, this might interest you:

click here for detective work


The 'publication' they source, until about an hour ago, didn't lead anywhere. They report it's contents, but don't link to where it can be accessed. My first thought was that it was some very shoddy journalism. I went searching and found nothing initially. I tried again later and found it:

https://policyexchange.org.uk/publication/closing-the-back-door/

I then inspected the webpage's source code: "datePublished":"2024-02-05T00:01:01+00:00","dateModified":"2024-02-04T23:41:48+00:00",

It was modified on the 4th at 23:41, and It was published on '05' - today, at '00:01:01'.

The Guardian reported on it 9 hours ago. The Irish Times reported on it 8 hours ago.

Therefore, I can say without a doubt that The Guardian and The Irish Times colluded with the Policy Exchange think tank in advance, and these articles were probably lined up in advance of today. Perhaps those publications uploaded in advance in order to catch the Sinn Fein leader news cycle while it was hot, because they hadn't anticipated new leadership happening in that moment (the day before).

The Mirror also published an article on it at the time the Policy Exchange website went up about an hour ago, but I can't be arsed to check whether they're just regurgitating second hand info from the Guardian and Irish Times, or whether they're reproducing first hand info from the original publication.

Also, the think tanks leaders are ex secretaries of defence. The department of defense (offense, realistically) always has ties to top media publications.

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[–] buh@hexbear.net 51 points 7 months ago

"Irish backdoor" sounds like a euphemism an Anglo-American sex pest from the 1850s would use

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 49 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Clearly, the solution is to return NI to Ireland.

[–] ProfessorAdonisCnut@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

Having no border is the best way to ensure there aren't backdoors

[–] ForkBombRaja@hexbear.net 40 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Could this article have something to do with the new nationalist First Minister of Northern Ireland and the resulting insecurity from London?

[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] IzyaKatzmann@hexbear.net 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

you think they have these kinds of stories at the ready or publications just scramble and say whatever? i'm confused because it seems like the same quality as their other content.

[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's hard to say what exactly goes on each time, but in general there's a baseline capitalist ideology, and within that, the ideology is reactive to the worlds stimuli. They can't predict everything that's going to happen, but for the most part the world works the way it works. Events don't just happen, they are precluded by trends and other events which are all closely monitored. For example, no one predicted the day or method that Hamas would attack Israel, but everyone knew that an eventuality like that was bound to happen, and the media was ready to pounce on the specifics, and interpret them with the usual ideology.

In this case, Ireland has been heading down the path of independence for a long time, and Sinn Fein taking power in Northern Ireland was not unimaginable. It was then announced, and now the media will react with their usual takes. The usual takes are ready at hand, because the ideology is the same every time. The think tank paper they cite is pretty long, and probably wouldn't just appear overnight - if it did, then all the research (the ideology) was already to hand, and they mad dashed it out. But I don't think that's the case.

In this case, if you'll trust my internet detective work, I deduce that this article was already in the works, and just happened to coincide with specific events (Sinn Fein taking leadership in Northern Ireland). They might have even published it earlier than they should've in order to catch that days Sinn Fein news cycle.

The 'publication' they source, until about an hour ago, didn't lead anywhere. They report it's contents, but don't link to where it can be accessed. My first thought was that it was some very shoddy journalism. I went searching and found nothing initially. I tried again later and found it:

https://policyexchange.org.uk/publication/closing-the-back-door/

I then inspected the webpage's source code: "datePublished":"2024-02-05T00:01:01+00:00","dateModified":"2024-02-04T23:41:48+00:00",

It was modified on the 4th at 23:41, and It was published on '05' - today, at '00:01:01'.

The Guardian reported on it 9 hours ago. The Irish Times reported on it 8 hours ago.

Therefore, I can say without a doubt that The Guardian and The Irish Times colluded with the Policy Exchange think tank in advance, and these articles were probably lined up in advance of today. Perhaps those publications uploaded in advance in order to catch the Sinn Fein leader news cycle while it was hot, because they hadn't anticipated new leadership happening in that moment (the day before).

The Mirror also published an article on it at the time the Policy Exchange website went up about an hour ago, but I can't be arsed to check whether they're just regurgitating second hand info from the Guardian and Irish Times, or whether they're reproducing first hand info from the original publication.

Also, the think tanks leaders are ex secretaries of defence. The department of defense (offense, realistically) always has ties to top media publications. They 'leak' information, or report it first hand for the media to publish. These links are well documented.

[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

Consent manufacturing goes brrrr

[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 39 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They pay these people at least six figures to come up with something I could have written after playing a session of HOI4! How wasteful.

[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think the usual Guardian salary is between 28-70k (large range I know), but he probably gets underhand benefits from his connections to power, monetarily or otherwise.

[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I was speaking more to the think tank people that write the paper the columnist was referencing.

[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago
[–] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 38 points 7 months ago (1 children)

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[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 25 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago

someone post that old picture with greta wearing the Chinese headpiece

it was gold

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 37 points 7 months ago

I didn't have "the Irish have their white status revoked" on my 2024 bingo card

[–] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 35 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sounds dangerous. I think the UK should surrender.

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago
[–] Frank@hexbear.net 34 points 7 months ago

Time to bump up the timeline on the Irish strategic nuclear weapons program.

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 33 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

I wish someone would come in my backdoor...

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I prefer to use the windows

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

I prefer to use the Linux

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 31 points 7 months ago (3 children)

How would a call of duty set in britbong land work out? What's the "Rameriz defend burger town" meme there?

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 25 points 7 months ago

Group of chinese-armed IRA soldiers walk into a Greggs

Remember - no sausage rolls

4 IRA soldiers absolutely let rip full auto on the gammon standing in line in front of them

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago

(picture a raging boomer thumb screaming at a 16 year old boy) LEWIS, DEFEND CRUMDINGLYHAMSHIRE BY-THE-SEA!

[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

there's Thatcher's Techbase, a Doom mod where you kill Margaret Thatcher, which Jeremy Corbyn was photographed playing: https://youtu.be/9dO5j9dHHO4?si=_m8PT_0O4i567Rgz

then there's Duke Smoochem - a leftist Duke Nukem mod that's a satire of Britain: https://youtu.be/4EGY-NfW4n4?si=AirQIFxlx_8kniTx

Then there's Corbyn playing Techbase in Duke Smoochem: https://youtu.be/fl0E82Z72FE?si=464I8H8LPX23ysqs

There's also a Fallout London mod coming out soon that looks pretty amazing. But yeah, our defend burgertown would probably be Captain Price in a Greggs or a Wetherspoons.

When COD actually did Britain they made the map Underground in MW3 (taking place in the London Underground).

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago

rawi oh, oil geh on dat as sewn as yumanly possibel, buh fayest I goh uh enjawi me tiddly winks and smuggly mugglies befoh tha rashuns dun stop incloodin dem

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago

Hyper degreed not a real job but gets showered with blood money made-it-the-fuck-up

[–] TimeTravel_0@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

the guardian? more like the goblin.

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago

Did someone say "goblin"?

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

Ireland isn't even part of NATO, and that's a good thing.

[–] Snackuleata@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago

And it wouldn't be surprisin' if there be another risin'

Said the man from the ~~Daily Mail~~ Guardian

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago

This is pretty much the NATO go-to for any election or politician they don't like. Tried the same shit in Colombia by accusing Petro of having Russian influence.

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

bri ish back dowas are quoit voolnerabel, if oi do say so me self volcel-police

[–] VOLCEL_POLICE@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago

The VOLCEL POLICE are on the scene! PLEASE KEEP YOUR VITAL ESSENCES TO YOURSELVES AT ALL TIMES.

نحن شرطة VolCel.بناءا على تعليمات الهيئة لترويج لألعاب الفيديو و النهي عن الجنس نرجوا الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة حتى يوم الحساب. اتقوا الله، إنك لا تراه لكنه يراك.

volcel-police

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The Ireland is coming from inside the house!

[–] TimmytheDragon@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

Involuntionary Vanguard.

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

HOI4 late game