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[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 60 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Remember everyone, media piracy is in the spirit of a tv show about a post-scarcity socialist utopian future.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 13 points 9 months ago

I feel like Quark giddily grabbing his security rods to break into Sisko's personal logs.

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.world 53 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Wtf why did a parrot land on my shoulder

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

It's a mystery!

[–] PlasticExistence@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Do you have a sudden urge to sing sea shanties?

I'm happy about the long curly hair, but the hook for a hand, peg leg, and eye patch arrrren't great. Worth it, but not great. Arrrr arrrr.

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[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 48 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's okay I'll just watch it on Netfli...WHAT!? Since almost two years ago you say? Because of late-stage capitalism you say?

[–] omgitsaheadcrab@sh.itjust.works 31 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I really miss old Netflix. Even had Disney movies 😭

[–] Landmammals@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago (4 children)

The worst part is, Netflix didn't even mess up. All the content owners decided to pull their licenses and make their own Netflix. Now we have 200 streaming services.

So I joined the party and made my own netflix. And not to toot my own horn, but it's the best one.

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[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 9 points 9 months ago

Those were the days...:-D

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[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 45 points 9 months ago (14 children)

So here's an unpopular opinion, but this isn't a bad thing. It's just not enough.

The biggest reason that legal, paid Streaming is so shitty these days, the reason people miss old Netflix, is that everything is spread across so many different platforms now. Back in the day, just having Netflix meant you had just about everything, and if you wanted more still you could get Hulu... and that was it. One, maybe two subscriptions, and you're set. But now? Now you need half a dozen subscriptions and you're still picking what things you won't get. If content was more centralized again, that wouldn't be a problem.

And if content was more centralized, that centralized platform would have PLENTY of subscribers, they wouldn't need to add commercials and hike prices just to stay afloat. I mean... they'd do it anyway because capitalism enshittifies everything, but it wouldn't be a do or fail situation for them.

The only thing I ever used the Paramount streaming for was Trek. I wouldn't complain if Trek, ALL Trek, migrated to somewhere else that has other things I like, too.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago

We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem," he said. "If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable.
-Gabe Newell

[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

The problem is that the people who hold the rights don't want to share. They want that sweet, sweet, monthly subscription income. They don't want to compete because that means they'll potentially earn less and have to spend more.

I tell people about fmovies every chance I get because it has just about anything you are looking for. I've only run into a few titles they don't have.

No registration, completely free, and easy to use.

[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

IMO, we really need an update to copyright law covering streaming. Think of how Redbox would just buy DVDs even though studios wanted them to wait about 2 months.

Streaming services should have a similar option. Then they'd need to compete on features, not on the streaming equivalent of "you can only watch this movie if you buy a Betamax player".

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is why I own most of star trek on dvd. Cant take that away from me.

Its also very difficult to find complete torrent for the series. Just too much content that nobody wants to host the wild file sizes

[–] MelodiousFunk@startrek.website 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

This is why I own most of star trek on dvd. Cant take that away from me.

I was so disappointed when the HD remasters stopped. I snapped up TOS, Animated, TNG, and all the movies on Blu-ray (replacing DVDs in the case of the movies and TNG) despite them being available on Netflix at the time. I was really looking forward to catching up with DS9 and Voyager the same way since I was only able to catch them sporadically when they were airing... but no, it seems these are doomed to remain in SD purgatory.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

There is a group has who completed an upscaling remaster of DS9. It's very very well done (though could be better with better source material from the producers).

They are working on Voyager now that DS9 is done. They've completed season 1 of voyager so far.

https://ds9redefined.wordpress.com/

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[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (6 children)

It's odd that people are against monopolies, generally speaking, but for streaming services we would prefer if there were a few giant companies which owned it all.

I'm not disagreeing with the above, just thought it was curious.

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago

Compare Movie/TV-show streaming to the Music streaming industry. Spotify/Tidal/Apple/Amazon all offer access to the same music (more or less). They compete on features/quality/apps/prices/etc. They don't compete based on their exclusive libraries. Somehow the music industry can survive in that model. Video streaming needs to do the same. Stop the exclusivity. This way, monopolies are not needed in video streaming.

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

People aren't clamoring for a monopoly, they are asking for interoperability. I didn't need a single VHS rental store to be the only place I could get Ernest Scared Stupid, but I did need to be able to get Ernest Goes to Jail at every VHS rental store.

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[–] Khanzarate@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

All we'd really need to do that is just make it a law that contracts aren't exclusive.

If shows were sold to multiple streaming services legally, then those services would compete based on the actual service they offer, and not the content they have.

In other words, make streaming services the customers for shows, instead of individuals, and then let people be their customers.

As it is, a streaming service is pretty comparable to a car dealership.

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[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

No, my problem is that we have this system where each piece of content is its own monopoly. That exclusivity means that people need to use a specific service to access that content.

The whole "I wish it was all on one platform" isn't really wishing for only a single platform to exist, but wishing that one platform could host all of the content. Ideally, there would be multiple ones doing this and differentiating themselves from each other in some way and, well, competing on their platform itself rather than "I paid a bunch of money so that you have to come here if you want to see anything Marvel."

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[–] dudinax@programming.dev 41 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If content is being streamed commercially, any other commercial streamer should be allowed to stream it for a fixed royalty. Every streaming service should have all publicly available content that they want to stream, and they should compete on quality of service and price.

[–] ChillPill@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

they should compete on quality of service and price

But they don't, they compete on "exclusives" to their platforms. Thus increasing the fragmentation in the market and exacerbating the end user. We're basically back to the days of cable...

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[–] bentropy@feddit.de 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 96 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Paramount removed all the Star Trek movies from their own streaming service, and gave them to HBO MAX. They have always billed their streaming service as "All things trek", but now they don't allow you to stream their own properties on their own streaming service.

[–] Ipodjockey@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Jesus... Well time to get out the Bat'leths.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Time to take up the life of an Orion Pirate

[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 9 months ago

Ok, I have to ask. Wtf?

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago

That's a pretty good summary, thank you.

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[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

This is why I have a media server.

[–] Railing5132@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Paramount+ is such hot trash. I tried a free trial after Amazon Prime went apeshit with ads one day as I was finishing up DS9. The app kept crashing my FireTV, wouldn't play, would randomly change languages and the only solution was to "keep going back seasons and episodes until you find one in your preferred language and then just fast forward until the episode you want." I had to go back 3.5 seasons - I don't got time for that shit.

They asked me to complete a survey when I canceled the trial after 35 minutes. I was... not polite. I may have suggested that any programmers guilty of releasing code so incredibly damaged into a production environment should commit seppuku.

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[–] Pixlbabble@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

What did they do this time?

[–] hactar42@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (5 children)
  • Removed the Star Trek movies and Prodigy
  • Went from 30 second to 60 second unstoppable ads on a paid platform
  • Have different UI controls between different programs on the same platform
  • For some reason their app continually turns off captions on DS9 between episodes and puts the language selection in a different order randomly

Those are just the ones off the top of my head

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[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Spin up a jellyfin server, obtain the movies, copy to jellyfin.

Problem solved

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Way ahead of you...

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Finished setup Jellyfin on a home server. roku, apple tv, and devices with swiftfin. was using plex, but they are going for the streaming profit model hard and probably worse than that soon. managed to find the TOS and TNG 4K remastered movies on usenet. hard drives are cheap and my ethernet is fast enough for 4k. whoo hooo....I mean, Arrrrrr!

QI'yaH, QI'yaH!

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There are lovely 4k blurays of all the movies.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I pretty much have to. Paramount+ never actually works whenever I have had a free trial. If they expect me to pay for something that doesn't even work, they're outta their fuckin' mind.

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

People still stream considering how insane the whole ecosystem is?

[–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This reminds me I need to catch up on Star Trek, while avoiding the 14 trackers in the app.

I'm sure I'll find a perfectly legal way to do so. Arrr.

Edit: I haven't shopped Trek DVDs in awhile, but I will look there first. It remains to be seen if my DVD backups skills can provide the same level of quality and service as the high seas, but I'll give it a go.

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