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It become open source just last week. Currently don't have Linux version but soon it will have. Linux Roadmap issue

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[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 73 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I'll try it once Linux support kinda works

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 34 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Don't understand why they made it mac only, I don't think mac users are even aware of other apps than what Apple tells them.. :)

[–] foolinthemaking@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It seems that a lot of their responses have been along the lines of: "Well, it's because I have a Mac. Good luck if you don't!"

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I understand that, sure, but they would have had a lot more support for this editor if it was for Linux. Now I barely ever hear about it at all in the news.

[–] RayJW@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Hot take: but I think it makes sense. If anyone would pay for a closed source editor it's mac developers hence it made sense to chose that as your first platform to support, especially considering that they are a small startup. I don't use mac either but I think they made the right choice from a business standpoint when they were still closed source.

[–] SatyrSack@lemmy.one 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] RayJW@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

Hence the wording, right decision back when they were closed source :)

[–] chayleaf@lemmy.ml 5 points 9 months ago

it only went open-source last week

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 3 points 9 months ago

Well yeah, I guess mac users are more used to paying for things, that's true.

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[–] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 21 points 9 months ago

A code editor developed for mac is a massive no go. as in forever.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 58 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Me as I read through the main page: this keeps getting better.

Goes to download it

oh…

[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 16 points 9 months ago

Like, for real, wtf

[–] randint@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 8 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Don't worry! I was also frustrated by the fact that there is only a macOS version available, but after a little digging, I found this on their FAQ:

Q: What platforms does Zed support?

A: As of now, we only support macOS.

[...]

As a general timeframe, you can expect us to begin work on supporting these platforms [Linux and Windows] after Zed is open source, but before version 1.0. Any news will be posted to our platform-tracking issues.

See also this issue. It seems like they have already begun making a Linux version.

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[–] ScreaminOctopus@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I looked for it in nixpkgs yesterday and was confused as to why it wasn't there 😮‍💨

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m using Pulsar now which is just Atom but updated.

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[–] Daeraxa@lemmy.ml 41 points 9 months ago (3 children)

A bit of gratuitous self promotion but just to let people know if you liked Atom and are still using it or maybe you migrated to a new editor and still miss Atom, it was forked as Pulsar which is entirely community-led and is seeing a lot of active development to bring it up to date. We also have a lemmy community at !pulsaredit@lemmy.ml

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[–] Helix@feddit.de 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'd love to have a vscodium alternative written in a faster and more efficient language. Most editors and IDEs don't quite fit my workflow, while vscodium does.

[–] sag@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yep, I also want a good alternative to codium which run fastly on Potato. That's why I am trying different Editor now days like Lite-Xl and other more.

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Does kate from KDE suffice?

[–] sag@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Didn't try it yet. But, isn't it just like Gedit?

[–] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Closer to Geany or Sublime. I haven't used gedit before though. Kate has language server back end integration, add-on support, integrated terminal, and other features. Geany might be a good option, though I know nothing of its speed. Kate seemed fine but again no idea.

[–] sag@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Just tried Kate. It's so great. Have all features which I want Thanks for suggestion

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I was kind of put off when I saw collaborative mode, office channels bla bla. I guess because there is no point in trying to combine slack with a code editor. Do the code editor and do it good and that would be enough. When it is like this though, it feels like they are trying to throw in some popular stuff into the mix because it will help marketing.

[–] ScreaminOctopus@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Idk, without a good collaborative mode there's really not much you can do to differentiate yourself from existing options. Without some feature like that it's hard to think of a reason to build yet another text editor.

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[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

So... after 9 years the guy finally realized that web technologies aren't good for something that should be fast and handle large files. And he seems to be aiming towards some collaborative / cloud money grab.

[–] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (8 children)

... and he goes on to use Metal of all things, instead of Vulkan/MoltenVK, smh. I wouldn't expect the Linux version to see the light of day anytime soon.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

Well I guess he did it because it’s easier 😂 I don’t even get why this project exits, the gains over Sublime Text are minimal and people tend to go with VSCode because it’s free or some Jetbrains product for serious work because it’s way superior than all the other options.

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[–] jeremyparker@programming.dev 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

It's a code editor with no Linux version. It can go on the shelf next to Arc, the browser "for tech people."

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[–] GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml 18 points 9 months ago

Road to Linux might be interesting to all linux users

https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/7015

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I have it installed on my work laptop and give it a try every few updates. I really like it. The vim emulation is pretty fleshed out and it definitely feels a lot faster than VScode.

I believe it's kind of out of scope of the project at the moment, but I'd really love to see debugger support. It's the only thing keeping me on VS code

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[–] kherge@beehaw.org 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Another one people might be interested in is Lapce. Seems to be the same thing as Zed, but has a Linux build available. https://lapce.dev/

[–] sag@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org 3 points 9 months ago

A windows build too

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Can confirm that’s it’s very fast. Just lacking plugins at the moment.

I will watch it with great interest

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (18 children)

I hope it gets there. I was a sublime user until vs code's integrations got so far ahead that the productivity gains outweighed the slowness, but I really want it to be faster.

Do zed plugins have to be written in rust? If they do then that will slow community contributions since it's not as popular as JavaScript for vs code.

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[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sounds exactly like atom... until they killed atom

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Exactly.

Atom being open source was why I switched to it from Sublime.

Atom's shitty performance was why I switched away to VS Code.

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[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

How does it compare against Lapce?

[–] jeffhykin@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Lapse is going the extensions-for-features route, cross platform from the start, is more buggy atm, slower progress (doesn't have 3 dedicated experienced devs) but is more accepting of community support.

Zed, similar goals and rust backend, probably has some monetization goals (eventual offering of live sharing code service), and Zed isn't afraid to hardcode features. Like... very hard hardcoded features, to the point that I'm kinda concerned about it. This 5min clip of Theo looking over the source code shows it pretty well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOYp6-k9HhE&t=1533

The Atom/Zed devs write the most well-documented code I've ever read. Clear variable names, perfect comment-explainations when needed, etc. I wish they would join up with Lapse.

[–] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can you be more specific on these concerning hardcoded features?

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[–] sag@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Maybe it will be more stable and have more features than Lapce. I think so because I tried Lapce yesterday, and it was so buggy on my machine. But no doubt Lapce is a solid alternative to VSCodium and it has all the features that I want but it lacks customization and is buggy for me. I am still not sure for Zed though because I didn't tried it yet and waiting for Linux support.

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