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[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 249 points 10 months ago (5 children)

“sharpen our focus and improve the way we work together to bring more agility to our organization.”

Ahh yes, watching co-workers get laid off does wonders for improving the way you work together with the people still there.

[–] OpenStars@startrek.website 81 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It does make you work harder... at finding some other job:-P.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 34 points 10 months ago

Not exactly a stellar market to be looking in. Chances are that you'll be trading down, especially if you're in some level of big tech, like Discord arguably is.

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 17 points 10 months ago

What a load of PR wank

[–] GuyDudeman@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Right? Sharpening focus and working together have zero to do with how many people you employ.

This was about profits. It's always about profits.

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[–] GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world 140 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 69 points 10 months ago (1 children)

At least not without a golden parachute.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Here is your reward for fucking up

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 27 points 10 months ago

The execs I know yell at people. They somehow get rewarded for having temper tantrums.

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[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 122 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's not like the management has let people, who still work there, add or fix anything. It's been nothing but Nitro promos, and animated profiles. Huge shame that people got laid off like this

[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 51 points 10 months ago (10 children)

"Heres your hourly reminder to rent worthless garbage we want you to pay monthy for, per server"

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[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 94 points 10 months ago (3 children)

To be clear, I'm not defeneding this pratice but explaining it. This cycle is how large businesses operate to foster growth over time.

  • Lay off people to tell stock holders they are becoming more efficient.
  • wait
  • Hiring spree, announce new features, new directions, hype hype hype
  • wait
  • Lay offs! Trimming overhead! Streamlining! Much efficency! Good business!
  • wait
  • Hyyyyyyype! Discord announces a plan to replace iMessage, Email and the entire concept of texting! Triples their staff! Such hype!

Rinse, repeat

It's horrific for the employees and a scathing indictment as capitalism as a whole. But, this is how large businesses work, not nessecarily a massive corporate slip up.

Here is a lawyer explaining the "dance steps" that the game industries is doing as of late.

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[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 77 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Y'know, they were going crazy over the top implementing unnecessary features... Maybe they actually did have too many employees doing useless things, but they should've instead had those employees focus on performance instead

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 30 points 10 months ago (4 children)

You hit the nail on the head.

I see this so many places - nobody asks “how big does this company need to be”? This is the problem with public companies - they are caught in an endless growth trap. Private businesses at least get to a point where a) growth has to happen sustainably because often there isn’t endless money available to invest and b) once you’ve got one private jet, as owners, do you really need another?

Reddit was no different. Maybe it would have been better for us all if it was a much smaller team and just careful tendered like a garden that had filled its plot.

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[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 12 points 10 months ago

Probably trying everything they could to get more $$$ but it didn't work out so.... bye.

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[–] Zoidberg@lemm.ee 70 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Unity, Google, Discord. All within a day or two of each other.

For every number of employees laid off, a VP level employee must be fired. Those employees didn't hire themselves. Someone came up with the idea.

If companies don't do this they're not attacking the root of the problem.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 20 points 10 months ago (7 children)

They coordinate to create a glut and push all their wages down. Computer touching wagies and so socially stunted they'll never form effective union. If they did, they would jusy defect out of greed.

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[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

For every number of employees laid off, a VP level employee must be fired.

You're expecting Morlocks to feast on each other, instead of feasting on the Eloi.

[–] neclimdul@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also twitch. Yuck...

Probably some great devs on the market for anyone hiring though.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Tech CEOs: we need better numbers. Fire a bunch of people! Ahh there we go. Now we’re flush with cash. Well, my work here is done.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

And gut the r&d budget. That's future CEO's problem.

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[–] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

The Jack Welsh way...

That guy is literally, not figuratively, responsible for most of the shitty things that companies do now.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago

That will cause some discord

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 39 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Now how to move the gaming community to Matrix or XMPP.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You don't. Gamers, are generally happy to bow to their corporate overlords for some reason.

Source: am a gamer. And I admit I do put up with some of that bullshit too.

[–] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I think that behaviour pattern has it's roots in the perceived dominance of Microsoft windows in the gaming sphere - we can fix that by encouraging people to game with linux.

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[–] Potfarmer@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

Discord went the way of Skype, it's just a bloated fustercluck now. I don't use it often, just once a month or so to keep up with a group of old friends, and every time I fire it up it has a new update bringing features I don't give a rats ass about.

[–] PanArab@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Right after they ruined the app’s UI?

[–] Maximilious@kbin.social 25 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Mobile UI is atrocious after the recent upgrade a couple months ago. Wish I could go back.

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[–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 24 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Before you do that, can you fix screen sharing on Linux?

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A wave of enshittification has struck Discord

[–] Urist@lemmy.ml 29 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Sorry to say it, but it has always sucked.

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Nah. What sucked was having to type in IP addresses just to talk on voice.

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[–] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Small company: yeah, we hired too many people, need to let go of 170.

People: such huge cuts, not touching them anymore

Large company: we're laying off the entire staff of pre-Elon Twitter worth of employees in this one department because they didn't make us enough money.

People: good, your product sucked anyways

[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

I mean, I wouldn’t exactly call a company with 1000 employees “small”. It’s not the behemoth that something like Google is, but like… that’s a good chunk of people.

[–] RandomStickman@kbin.social 17 points 10 months ago (11 children)

Any alternative you would recommend? I'm mostly using it for video group call for dnd. Although convincing the group to change to yet another program would be the hardest part.

[–] m_randall@sh.itjust.works 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As far as self hosted I’ve heard a lot about matrix but haven’t tried it. Maybe I’ll give it a shot this weekend.

https://matrix.org/

There’s also telegram, slack, etc if you want something else commercial.

[–] Ebsku@sopuli.xyz 11 points 10 months ago (7 children)

I've convinced few of my friends to use Matrix and it has been a really nice platform and now I prefer it to Discord not only because it respects user privacy but also because it doesn't have the nitro bs

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[–] CoopaLoopa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

~~Microsoft~~ Roblox ripped off Discord and branded it as Guilded GG. Features-wise for audio and game streaming, they offer higher quality than Discord for free.

Is there any chance you'll get your group of friends to move to ~~"MS Teams for gamers"?~~ anything other than Discord? No chance.

Edited: Correction that Guilded is owned by Roblox, not MS.

[–] fjordbasa@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Guilded.gg is owned by Roblox, where does Microsoft come into play?

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[–] NotJustForMe@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Still holding out for them to have a $10 a year tier with no added features. The $36 bucks a year entry fee is just too much.

Can someone here explain to me why so many free services directly jump to $3, $5 or $9.99 bucks a month? Why not $10 per year? Surely that's better than nothing?

Just call it supporter tier and that's it. I don't want any icons or upload limits either. I just want to not feel like a leech. ;)

[–] AVengefulAxolotl@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

I dont understand it either. I would happily donate to signal yearly like 10-15€, but 5 every month? No, thats just too much sorry.

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 8 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Discord is laying off 17 percent of its staff, a move that CEO Jason Citron said is meant to “sharpen our focus and improve the way we work together to bring more agility to our organization.”

Based on Citron’s message to employees and my understanding of the business, Discord isn’t in dire financial straits, though it has yet to become profitable and is still trying to revive user growth after a surge during the pandemic.

In his memo to employees, which you can read in full below, Citron said Discord grew its headcount too fast over the last few years — an admission that has become quite common among tech CEOs as of late.

These cuts are Discord’s largest to date after the messaging app laid off 4 percent of staff last August.

They add to the layoffs that continue to sweep across the tech industry, including deep cuts at Google and Amazon just this week.

The company has been contemplating going public since it turned down a $12 billion acquisition offer from Microsoft in 2021, though I’m told it’s nowhere near close to doing so.


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[–] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Capitalism!

It fucking sucks!

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