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TL;DR It was an old Wang system, 286 processor(I think, anyway), with no hard drive, a 5.25" floppy drive, and a lovely green monochrome monitor. I didn't have it long enough to reach the point where I could have identified the actual hardware/specs.

Back in 1993, I was 10, and the internet really wasn't a thing yet(yeah, yeah, I know. But for most of us, the internet didn't exist until the mid-late 90's). You'd probably have difficulty even finding someone in the neighborhood who could tell you what a computer was, nevermind having used one. I was out running around the city, as you used to be able to do at 10 years old, when I passed by some local business/office/who knows I was 10. Big pile of trash out front, waiting to be picked up. When you're a kid, and you're poor, you go picking. Trash picking, I mean. You can get all sorts of cool shit, especially from the wealthier neighborhoods. Maybe it's different nowadays, but back in the day, people would toss out perfectly good toys, bikes, electronics, furniture, and as they became more commom, videogames, computers, etc. A ton of the shit I owned as a kid is stuff I picked straight out of the trash. Even after that, I picked trash for years. Resold a metric FUCKTON of stuff that other(presumably wealthier) people deemed to be garbage.

Back to this business/office/free stuff location, I obviously start eyeing what's in the big pile out front of this place. Among the stuff, I see a big, beige, metal box, a weird looking TV, and something with a big coiled wire hanging off of it. Now, it's not like there weren't computers in movies/TV at that point, and I had just read Jurassic park the same year, so I did recognize, vaguely, what it was. So I start looking at it, poking around, It had a name on it. "Wang". Don't know what that means, but I'm 10; that's hilarious. I decide I'm taking it. Tried to pick it up, and yeah, that shit is heavy. Nevermind the TV thing, and the keyboard. So as you do, I look around for a stary shopping cart, and sure enough, there's never one far away. Grab the cart and start lifting my haul into it, when someone comes out of the business/office/treasure-hoard, and yells "HEY!" Thought I was about to be in trouble, but instead, this guys walks over to me and says "you're gonna need this." Handed me a bundle of wires, and a square envelope, and just went back inside. So I toss that in the cart, and start pushing. And push I did. A shopping cart full of early 90's computer hardware, pushed by a 10 year-old, down the street, on and off of curb, up and down hills, from the other end of the city, is hard work. But eventually, I got home with it. Not to worry though, I only lived on the 3rd floor of a three-story building.

So I get home, and I start unloading my haul, one piece at a time, and start dragging it up the stairs. Thankfully no one was home, so I could bring everything into my room without anyone complaing about what I'm doing. That was also one of the only times I actually had a bedroom, so that worked out. Once I get it in there, I put the big metal box on the floor in the corner of my room, I take my monitor and decide that I'm pretty sure it's supposed to sit on top, so I put that there. The keyboard was next. After I untagled that cursed coiled cable, I obviously checked the back of the monitor, looking for where I need to plug the keyboard in. Figured out that no, it gets plugged into the big metal box. What next? Oh, right, that bundle of wires the guy gave me. It tuned out to be a couple of power cables, and a (what I now would assume) was a VGA cable. So I get to work plugging all of that in, and when it comes to the VGA cable, that's when I realize that oh, everything plugs into the metal box, that seems important. That must be the part that is a "computer." So what the hell is the TV thing? Took a minute, but I eventually remembered my NES, and realized that oh yeah, the box is where everything happens, and the screen is just where you see it. Again, I was 10, and all of this technology was still new to the average person. Give me a break here.

And last up was that square envelope. Would you believe it had a black plastic thing inside? It's really floppy. Weird. What the fuck is this thing? It has a white sticker on it, and some illegible scribbles. Nintendo to the rescue again. This black plastic thing sure does look like it would fit into the slot on the front of the metal box. Oh shit, it did! Now I just have to turn this thing on. How the fuck do you turn this thing on? Spent a while on that one, flipping the obvious big red power switch in the back. Took a while before I figured out there was a second power button on the front. TWO power switches?! What is this nonsense? Whatever. It's on now.

I sat and watched as bright green text started popping up on the screen. Various numbers, and phrases that I'd never heard in my life. Clearly, this stuff could only be understood some secret government agent, or that one kid I read about Jurassic Park, who was obviously like, a genius hacker or something. The slot where I shoved that floppy plastic square sure is noisy. What the hell is it doing, anyway? It loads in just like my Nintendo games, maybe it's a game?! Maybe a game is about to start. It sure was, friends. Maybe the greatest game ever made. We called it... DOS.

Man, did I love that game, DOS. I spent the several hours, typing random shit on the keyboard, as the command prompt did absolutely nothing of interest, since I had no idea what I was doing. But after those couple of hours of typing swears and random nonsense, I finally started to get bored, what with all of the nothing that was happening. And for whatever reason, I thought maybe someone could help me. Or, why not the computer itself? Maybe it will help me. So I typed the work "help", I hit the enter key, and sure enough, something finally happened. Holy shit, it's doing something. It's telling me how to DO stuff.

And so, before this novel goes on even longer, yeah. I found the help menu, and spent many more hours needlessly using very basic commands to create, copy, move, rename, and delete empty files and folders. Truly, I was now an elite haxxor man.

Over the next couple of years, I pulled many systems and parts out of various trash piles, and cobbled together different systems. Many, many different 386 and 486 systems. Until finally, when I was 15, I managed to get my hands on an obscenely slow, but absolute magic at the time, dialup modem, and a pile of "free hours" of AOL.

And they all lived happily ever after... Until social media was invented. The end.

If people like/want to read/discuss such poorly written nonsense, maybe I'll write up some nonsense about other technology-based shenanigans from over the years. And if people would rather make fun of my poor writing skills; fair.

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[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

Some monochrome Mac that I could play Dark Castle on.

[–] FlashZordon@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

It was one of those early Gateway computers that were in a lot of households by the end of the 90s. No clue on the specs, as I was only in elementary school and was only interested in playing CD-ROM demos that came with the computer. But it did spark my interest in computers ever since.

[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

All I remember is that it ran Windows 3.1 and had a 'Turbo' switch on the front. To this day I have no idea what that did, but was told not to touch it.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo_button

One of our computers had one of those. We just left it on all the time.

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[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 3 points 10 months ago

The first PC I used was a 400mhz Celeron running windows 95. Can't remember how much RAM, but at some point I upgraded the hard drive and I loved swapping out the GPUs on it for shits and giggles (my dad had multiple GPUs for some reason, two pci, one agp, and I wasn't even 10 yet and couldn't really tell the difference they made in my games, it just made me feel smart which was all that mattered). Mostly played Need for Speed 2 and 3, Age of Empires 2, SimCity 3000, Zoo Tycoon, Rollercoaster Tycoon and some magic school bus edutainment stuff. By the time I got rid of it, it was running windows 2000.

SimCity 4 made me upgrade to a 3200+ AMD Athlon (socket 939, with an ASRock motherboard that supported dual channel memory, wow). Originally it had a 128mb Nvidia MX 4000, but by the end of its life it had 4gb of ram and an Nvidia 9600 GSO. It could play Crysis at 1280x1024@10-15fps with everything on low. At the time I considered that playable. Since I'd already been forced into sharing it with my sister, she took it after I upgraded again and eventually it got sent to Goodwill.

Now I have an old XP machine that belonged to my grandparents (2200 sempron w/ 2gb ram and the old Nvidia MX4000 I had put in it so I could play games at their house) and wish I hadn't let my sister get rid of my Athlon PC because I've been thinking about upgrading that PC to an Athlon.

[–] harsh3466@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Mine was the only legit Apple clone.

Laser 128

A Laser 128, a legit clone of the iic.

I was in late middle school/early high school (can’t remember exactly when we got it). My family had a dj business, and in addition to learning BASIC, I put the entire DJ music catalog into an AppleWorks database, played a TON of zork and Bard’s Tale, and attempted to write my own text adventure game in BASIC that was loosely based on Piers Anthony’s world of Xanth. (I read a ton of Piers Anthony as a kid. In hindsight, ick.)

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[–] khannie@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Mine was a Sord M5. A rich family friend bought it for me for Christmas out of nowhere.

16KB of RAM. Absolutely nobody I knew had one. Still, it was an introduction to computing that would eventually result in a lifetime of love.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Commodore 64, carried it all the way through college until I could afford an Amiga 500.

[–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Atari 520ST. I was eight. My father got a good deal on it because one of his co-workers was upgrading to the 1040ST that had just come out. It had a beautiful paper white monochrome monitor that did 640x400 resolution, or I could hook it up to the television and do 320x200 with 512 colors.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My grandmother let me use and play a couple of games on her Apple IIe.

But the first computer that was mine was a Windows 3.1 386. I think I remember it had an 80MB hard drive. I played games and eventually found qbasic.exe and wrote lots of toy programs and a couple of very simple games in the QBasic language. I owe a lot to that old 386 machine.

[–] burrito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you me? I had a 386 just like that. Mine was the SX so no math coprocessor and it had 1 MB of RAM and later I upgraded it to 4 MB. I also used mine to write a bunch of programs in qbasic. I learned a ton on that machine. SimCity 2000 was also a lot of fun on it, though it ran much faster on the Pentium machine I got later.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I remember SimCity 2000 well! And the Urban Renewal Kit. And SimCopter. Damn it was cool flying through your SC2K cities.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

The first computer the family had was a TI-1000 (don't even remember us having a tape drive for it)

My first, was a Atari 130xe 128 kb with 5-1/4" floppy drive! It was a huge deal.

[–] echo@lemmings.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

TRS-80 Color Computer with 4K of memory. (1982)

[–] mercano@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

The Fat Mac (512k) my dad bought to run inventory for his store. I was probably 2 or 3 playing games like Count-on-Mac and version of the memory game called, I think, Concentration. I’d also mess around in Mac Paint and later got into Pinball Construction Set.

[–] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I got a double hand-me-down laptop (4th child) in 7th grade.

I watched stupid shit on albinoblacksheep, played stupid games on addictinggames, and looked at porn.

A lot of porn.

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[–] Platform27@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

First computer, I got was via a trade. I was about 12. At the time I knew next to nothing about computers, with desktops being a thing at school (in one room). Something like this in a home… that’s rich people stuff. It ran Windows XP, and was almost certainly a Pentium (don’t know which).

I remember making several trips to transfer the monitor, desktop, and accessories home. That thing was HEAVY, for me back then. It must have been about 3 miles before I carried everything home. I connected everything, booted it up, and everything worked perfectly… Then five minutes later I found out the importance of the internet… optical games worked fine, but no porn… My next purchase would be a USB 2 mobile internet dongle. How else was I going to do all that valuable “research”.

About two years or so later, it wouldn’t turn on (the PC). There wasn’t any shops near me that could fix it, and I thought what would be the harm in opening the side panel, and taking a look. Suffice to say… I made things worse. Can’t recall what I did, but the power supply went bang, thankfully no fire. I ended up throwing the computer out, and selling the accessories and monitor. I didn’t want to own a desktop computer, again for years. That loud bang scared the living hell out of me.

I only later got back into computing, because I was kinda addicted to video games, heard PC gaming was better, and slowly aquired several games from relatives (Crysis, Total War Empire, etc). That computer I purchased, new, with cash I earned from trading with folks/shops (still haggle, to this day). My next computer was AMD, a A6-3600, I think. No graphics card, though I would later haggle for a GTX 960. This computer was where I started to get really interested in IT. I wanted to learn why my old computer bit the dust, and figure out everything I could. It was more than a porn and gaming machine. That computer taught me more than most IT lessons ever did (still can’t believe using Google Search, constituted as a “lesson”).

[–] megane_kun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

My first computer was a hand-me-down Toshiba T3100. I was around ten years old at the time, in the late 90's. The portable computer, was way far different from any computer I've seen thus far. It also came with a printer, but I don't think I managed to make it work. The portable computer only had a 20MiB hard drive, and memory that can be measured in kibibytes. Its hard drive has already been reformatted, and had MS-DOS 6.21, Windows 3.11, as well as some DOS‌ games installed in it.

I didn't really bother with the DOS‌ games, but I've had a lot of fun playing Chips Challenge on Windows. However, a huge chunk of time went into me just messing around with QBasic. Later on, when I had programming classes, I installed Turbo Basic, Turbo Pascal, and Turbo C in there for homework and projects.

It could have lasted far longer but I couldn't resist myself opening it up. I didn't have a lot of trouble opening it up, but had a bit of trouble putting it back together. It didn't survive my prying though, and it got shoved into the storage.

Just recently, a few years ago, I found out that it's a bit of a collector's item, and was even expensive back when it was new. I couldn't have known it at that time, nor would I have cared, but I still regret not taking care of it a bit more.

[–] mwproductions@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

The first computer I remember using was my dad's IBM PC-XT, but the first computer that was mine was an Apple IIe that my grandfather gave me when he upgraded his own.

I don't remember how old I was, but probably around 9 or 10. I loved that thing, and I used it for all sorts of stuff. I played games, I made cards and banners with Print Shop Pro, I wrote stories and stuff. That thing was great.

[–] Ashtear@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

An IBM PCjr, when I was 4 (I was one of those kids that picked up reading very quickly).

I learned DOS, played King's Quest, and even picked up simple programming in BASIC from a book. Not sure if the book was a pack-in with the computer or if my parents got it for me separate. I didn't learn PC internals until a few years later, although I do vividly recall an ISA-slot 15MB hard drive that was the size of one of today's big video cards.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 points 10 months ago

(what I now would assume) was a VGA cable.

Not in that era, no. That would have been "MDA", "CGA", or "Hercules", using a 9-pin DE-9 connector. EGA would use the same connector, but that was still a few years after that machine.

VGA uses a DE-15 connector with the same exterior shape and dimensions as the DE-9, but with a third row of pins.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

Tandy Model 1 level 2. 2k RAM. Cassette drive.

[–] IonAddis@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Uh, well...I grew up in a technologically-backward household. So the tech I grew up with was behind the times, even then.

Examples: in the 1980s/1990s, my household didn't have a basic answering machine, when everyone else did. And our telephone was still the old rented-from-ma-bell rotary phone where you stuck your fingers in the holes and rotated the dial. Modern landline phones in the 90s were NOT rotary, and some were even wireless (the handset talking to the wired receiver on the wall attached to the landline). I think the rotary one we had probably dated to somewhere between the 50s-70s. Everyone else I knew had ordinary buttons on their (landline) phones, we were the only ones I knew with a rotary phone.

We absolutely didn't have a computer. We didn't even use the TV we had, it was banned.

My very first exposure to COMPUTERS was therefore at school. School had the big-floppy (that were actually floppy) type, the 5.25" ones OP mentions, and school also had the ones that used the smaller floppy disks.

But my first exposure to computers-for-fun were neighbor's computers. One neighbor, a grandpa like guy who I think at some point worked trades but was retired (maybe disability), showed me how to make holiday cards on his computer. Like, dot matrix printer type of graphics, very very basic. Thinking back, I vaguely remember the command line, so I think it was a Windows DOS computer we used.

And another friend, a boy 5 years younger than me, had DOS computer at home, so we'd play things like Commander Keen and Lemmings. Since there was no Windows GUI yet, we had to use the command line to launch the game executable. This was like 1993, I think?

I also had a different friend and she had an Apple computer, and I remember King's Quest.

The town library had computers too, and I played Oregon Trail and the first Sim City on it, before these computers had internet on them.

Later, by middle/high school though, the internet was taking off. And I was an 'early adopter' of that because I was a nerd and used it to find other nerds, and I would go to the library and basically do the then-equivalent of social media--individual niche message boards and email groups for my fandoms and interests--before I had a computer of my own. Those were usually Windows 98 or Windows 95 machines. I was even running a message board and website before I had a home computer or my own home internet, using library and the local community college computers to teach myself. It just sucked I couldn't do it at home.

Oh, and most teens used AOL to chat, although MSN and Yahoo messenger apps also had their crowds. And ICQ existed too and was very popular, although more with the nerdy niche-topic crowd.

Finally, at 18 in 2001, I got my own computer, and that was Windows ME (a SONY VAIO) with one of the early flat-screen LCD monitors which was super fancy for the time. A few years later I upgraded it to Windows XP.

But I didn't like that it was a propitiatory type that wasn't easy to upgrade. I was trying to play WoW with friends and doing Wrath-era Naxx would cause my FPS to become utter dogshit because the integrated graphics and the shitty amount of RAM couldn't handle it. It was a joke in the guild, me disconnecting in fights and my DPS being so spiky. So I eventually did away with that first computer because its poor performance would make me gamer-rage, haha. The first computer I BUILT myself in the early 2000s to replace it had an AMD cpu. I don't remember what video card I chose, but ANYTHING was an upgrade over the previous computer, lol. And I got a lot more RAM, upgraded from MBs to GBs.

But anyway, since then I've mainly had desktops I've built myself, although recently I got a backup laptop. It came in unexpectedly useful when I broke my foot and couldn't sit at my desktop without it swelling to high heaven, so while I still prefer a desktop, I give that laptop some grudging respect, lol. It saved my sanity.

The rate of improvement in computers has massively slowed down, it's stabilized, so I'm not as interested in continually upgrading as I used to be. Phones and tablets are the thing that took over in the "rapidly changing" niche...but I have something of a phone-phobia, and as a writer can't write effectively on a tablet, so I'm not much interested in phones and tablets from a tech perspective. They're underpowered and/or expose me to phone convos which I hate and avoid whenever possible.

[–] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

King's Quest!

[–] JCPhoenix@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago

My family got a hand-me-down Tandy from one of our relatives. It would've been somewhere between 1992-1994, which was when I was like age 5-7. Looking at photos online, I'm thinking it was a Tandy 1000 SL. They gave us some games with it, but I really don't even remember them. I know my mom bought some educational software for me. I "broke" this one by trying to install one of the games to it, instead of just running it from the floppy disk. It just wouldn't properly boot to the OS (don't even know what OS it was) afterwards. My dad was/is an IT guy but went to school for CS. Using BASIC, he'd program little graphics things for me. Like he did one thing looked like colored laser beams shooting across the screen. Another looked like bubbles floating up.

Our first brand new family PC was purchased in like 1995 (I would've been about 8). It was a Packard Bell. It looked like this. We got Internet (AOL) not long afterwards, which blew my mind, even as a kid. I've basically had Internet access ever since. I once again "broke" this one, again trying to install some software to it that I found online. It stopped booting to Windows. So I didn't touch it for months. My dad is a mainframe and servers guy, so he wasn't much help (even today, he's not great with desktops) But I eventually found the Windows 95 CD that came with the PC and reinstalled Windows myself. In many ways, that was my first step into my current IT career.

My first computer, as in not the family PC, but my own, was in 2005. A high school graduation/going to college present was an HP Pavilion DV4000 series laptop. I specced it somewhat towards gaming, without breaking the bank, even though it was not a gaming laptop by any means. Was good enough that I could play Final Fantasy XI and WoW on it from campus or Starbucks or wherever. Priorities, am I right?

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Acer Aspire, knew all the specs then, can't recall now. Would take the best buy newspaper ads to my wall until parents agreed a year later

[–] Pietson@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

I want to say I was around 16 when I bought my own pc? Pretty sure it had an AMD r9 390

[–] UncleStewart@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago
[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I'm 41 years old.

My first experience with a computer was when I was 5 years old, playing Squirm on my granddad's C16 (from tape drive no less!). I got my first own computer - well, own-ish, it was our family's - at 8 when we got a C64, at that time massively futuristic because we had a disk drive!

[–] dotslashme@infosec.pub 2 points 10 months ago

Vic 20. I used it to learn basic programing and play games.

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

1993 acer tower computer. I'm not sure of the model. It ran windows 3.1 or maybe it was 3.11. I had nothing but problems with that computer but it gave me the first real ability to look into how a computer was put together. I built my own for years after that.

[–] NorthWestWind@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

My father's laptop. I was like 2 or 3. I pretended to be working. I dropped it onto the floor and broke it.

[–] chahk@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago

My introduction to the world of computers was back in the late 80s when my stepdad brought home a Pravetz 8D. It was an 8-bit Oric clone made in Bulgaria. It hooked up to our TV and we had a cassette deck to load/save data. I was 13 or 14 at the time living in Ukraine. Playing games and learning BASIC on it got me interested in coding and started me on the path to a now 30+ year career in IT. Technically it wasn't mine though.

After we emigrated to the USA in the early 90s I went to college to continue studying programming. With my very first paycheck from a part-time job I bought my very own first PC. It was a 486DX2-66 with a ginormous 40 megabyte hard drive.

[–] Roldyclark@literature.cafe 2 points 10 months ago

Windows 95. A Dell I think? It was in our dining room lol. Played a lot of Lego Island and Hot Wheels Stunt Track Driver.

[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

This was in the days I didn't know much about computers. I paid $1700 for a new 2017 4K iMac, with 16GB RAM and 1TB HDD. I was about 14.

I now regret that choice. The HDD made things slow and MacOS limited the games I could run. I could've gotten 3x the GPU power and 1.5x the CPU power plus expandability if I just built a PC instead.

I got it because my friend at the time had an iMac, my family and school almost exclusively used Macs, and I've never actually seen a gaming PC at that point. I even had no idea what a GPU was at the time.

Luckily my next computer was one that I did extensive research into and am very satisfied with. It's an Asus ROG Strix G15 Advantage Edition. For under $2K, it had a high end CPU, GPU, good battery life for a gaming laptop, and replaceable storage and RAM.

[–] Shimitar@feddit.it 2 points 10 months ago

An 8088 compatibile system. It had a NEC v30 CPU which was a full replacement for a real Intel 8088, but clocked at 8Mhz instead of 4.77. I had 640Kb of ram and a CGA video card & monitor. I remember playing Eye Of The Beholder 2 (I had 20mb hard drive) toward the end of its life (after my father bought a mouse, which was novelty) and it was so slow (like 30seconds between movements) that on more difficult combats I had to copy the savegame to a friend 286....

I remember the upgrade to msdos 3.2....

I had both 3.14 and 5.25 floppy drives, but the latter I never really used.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Macintosh 128k. I don't remember a time when there wasn't a "spare/family" computer in the house. My father also had an Apple 3, and we had various 286/386/Pentium machines by the time I left the house permanently.

There was also an IBM 5110 in the barn that he bought from NYIT for $100.

[–] darkl1nk@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I am 40 years old. I inherited an IBM PS2 Model 70 with a 386 processor from my cousins. I used it to play games like Skyfox, Indiana Jones, and Prince of Persia, create birthday invitations, and write documents in WordPerfect 5.

I still have some commands memorized to uncompress stuff with ARJ.

[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago

My mom needed a computer for her job. Gateway with Window 95 on it. It ran Tomb Raider at like 5fps and I played the shit out of it.

[–] Manmikey@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

1 was 18 and bought a Commodore 64 and cassette drive, I played games, Fairlight, Psi Warrior and Elite (my god the hours I spent on elite, I've craved that experience ever since and never quite equalled it. Plus I dabbled with basic programming, quickly moved on to an Atari ST, WOW that was a quantum leap! Then the first PC computer a 386 DX40 and Doom changed my world forever......been a PC gamer ever since

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