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this post was submitted on 31 Dec 2023
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Technically this post is illegal until tomorrow, but I dig that.
It's tomorrow in some places 😂.
Yeah but the IP was held by an American Company.
Happy New Year.
Would using a VPN make posting it from NZ illegal right after midnight if the IP is logged from a country not past midnight?
I love that we're having a whole hypothetical discussion about this. I think the time in the timezone where the rights were held probably took priority over the time for the poster of the image at the time of upload. Regardless of what timezone you post from, it would have been posted before midnight for Disney and the relevant courts.
That sounds to me like it's probably correct. 👍
Probably.
Are you from the future?
I am now.
They used to be
Not really. I think it's considered free speech if it's sarcastic or a parody.
Free speech doesn't apply to Intellectual Property at all, or rather you're free to say whatever you want but you can still be sued for anything that you say.
What you're thinking of is "Fair Use".
Thanks for the clarification.
" If Disney sues, we'll claim fair use...
Ho hi! "
"hi ho, hi ho, it's off to court we go..."
And fair use exists to protect free speech.
Yes, the infamous "sarcastic" exception to copyright.
It's still illegal. This version of Mickey Mouse is still covered under trademark law.
What do you mean? What part of this infringes on copyright?
Trademark. Not copyright. And the part that is covered is Mickey.
This could also be covered under copyright, since the only Mickey that went into public domain is the one from Steamboat Willie, not this one. I'm not a lawyer, though.
This is the one from steamboat willy though
Why?
As of 2024, Micky is now public domain, at least the variant from Steamboat Willie.
Show us the hands! Willie, in the public domain, doesn't wear gloves. Mickey, still Disney IP, does wear gloves.
Mickey is ready for your prostate exam.
Yet somehow the Steamboat Willie version seems more likely to give you said exam whether warranted or not
Dr. Steamboat Willie: "Take off your pants and put them on the chair with mine."
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣... got me laughing so hard i woke up my wife in bed 🤣
Did she enjoy the comment as much as you did?
Of course not... weirdos never get satisfaction.
It's hard being a weirdo...
Let me clarify, only the Steamboat Willie version of Mickey Mouse characters are in public domain, not the recent versions as Disney holds the copyright. In a few years, more Mickey Mouse shorts will become public domain.
Personally, I don't give a shit about whether Mickey Mouse is copyrighted or not. What I care about is all the other works that were kept from entering the public domain because Disney was constantly getting copyright extended.
What's funny is that Disney built their empire largely on public-domain works (such as fairy tales), but when it's their turn to give back, they fight it tooth and nail. Classic getting to the top and then pulling up the ladder behind you.
Hard agree
I've heard an argument that a reason why Disney has pushed Steamboat Willie lately (new intro for Disney Animation films, and a lot of merch) is because copyright law works differently from trademark law. They can still claim a trademark even if the copyrighted work is in public domain. I'm not a lawyer, but if that's not all BS, I don't think we have to worry about anything like this anytime soon.
I am a lawyer, and that is correct. You can use old Mickey for general purposes, but not as a mark.
Meeh, it's just a joke. It would be an aimmediate downer for me if I was a fisrt time xfce user.
AFAIK you can only claim a trademark-violation if someone is (for example) selling stuff (so you couldn’t sell stuffed animals that look like an early Mickey for example).
A trademark just has to be "used in commerce as a mark". In layman's terms, that basically means distributing goods or services with it as a logo or a name. A stuffed animal could be infringement, but using something a logo for your software is much closer to the classic infringement fact pattern.
Love this and now I'm expecting wallpapers for my xfce build.
I get it ... but idk if I want Disney on my mind when thinking about xfce
XFCE is the Mickey Mouse under the desktop environments?
I hope not...