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I thought the original was pretty but otherwise forgettable. What's consensus among viewers for the sequel? Great? Worth watching if you're bored? Skip?

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[–] AttackBunny@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rewatched the first one, because I couldn’t have told you anything about it. Then watched the second one. It’s the same damn movie with different colored Navi. Honestly don’t know how they are going to make like 5 or 6 of them.

It’s mindless and pretty, but not deep, and DEFINITELY not original.

[–] kinyutaka@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Oh, but this time the giant untamable beast that will be tamed by the White Saviour is in the water.

[–] cnnrduncan@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

It's not exactly deep or super meaningful and I probably won't remember much about the plot in a few years but I definitely enjoyed it when I watched it a couple days ago!

[–] ElectronBadger@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not worth. Visuals are ok, but nothing that special; story is very poor.

[–] RODonnell@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I liked the first Avatar, but was surprised at how much I loved the second one.

It's good, but way too long. I would skip it if you haven't seen it at this point.

[–] BrikoX@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago

Visually appealing with ground breaking CGI but same average story as most movies these days.

[–] ono@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

I enjoyed the first film, but found the sequel boring, mainly due to weak writing and shallow characterization. The visuals were nice. If you have a good sized screen, it might make a good backdrop while socializing.

[–] exohuman@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

I saw most of it on Disney. It’s okay. I wish they had different bad guys since it felt like the same bad guys all over again. It’s worth watching if you are bored. Personally, I have more fun watching my favorite YouTubers when I am bored.

[–] keystonerose@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I enjoyed it well enough at the time, though it didn't leave much of an impression on me afterwards

A weird thing I realised, though — the visuals of the CGI forests and oceans don't really do anything for me personally (though many others seem to like them a lot, and I'm sure they are very technically impressive!). But... I absolutely loved the CGI spaceship shots at the very beginning. More of those please!

[–] Anon2971@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The foundations of it are stronger than the original. There's deeper characterization, more complex themes of family, interpersonal conflicts, infighting and the last hour is essentially a non-stop, stupendously choreographed action sequence. It sets up interesting dynamics for the sequels too.

As a technology buff I appreciated the framerate experiment. Films have always been shot at 24FPS typically, but the human eye sees at a much higher framerate than that. Avatar 2 experiments with increasing the framerate for realism. Action shots are mostly in 60FPS with dialogues and close ups in 24FPS. I think it did make the action sequences feel more lifelike, but the switching was a bit extreme IMO - it pretty regularly switches between 24FPS and 60FPS in action sequences which can be jarring. I personally would've preferred solid, on-stop chunks of 60FPS with chunks of 24FPS rather than on again/off again. That made it more distracting than a benefit, but I think the framerate experiment worked well overall. I'm hoping they stick with a single framerate per section in the sequels.

The real problem is the pacing. I thought Avatar 1 was a great scene setter for the universe of Pandora. Even if it's broad strokes are very predictable, at least it's enjoyable to see it play out. But the second time around, my god it takes FOREVER to get going. You know exactly how the conflict pieces slot into place for the climax and the dialogue is still just as clunky as the first film. Plus there's some excessive "save the whales" scenes that IMO could've easily been cut as it repetitively bashes its obvious environmentalist message over your head again and again.

...But overall, it's still a bit better than the first film. Just about. I'm really hoping the scripts for the next entries fix the dialogue and have more ambitious storytelling.

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