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  • The Supreme Court upheld Washington state's law banning "conversion therapy" for minors, despite dissent from three conservative justices.
  • An appellate panel struck down local bans on conversion therapy in Florida, deeming them an unconstitutional restriction on counselors' speech.
  • Justice Clarence Thomas argued that the court should have taken up the case and considered the First Amendment challenge to the law.
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[–] Tedesche@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Counselors' first amendment rights aren't being affected; they can say anything they want. They're just not allowed to treat minors with treatment methods that have been proven to be ineffective at best and harmful at worst. Your first amendment rights don't apply to treatment periods; there are plenty of restrictions on your speech in a professional setting like that, and you should lose your license if you violate those rules. Those aren't state laws though, just silly old APA standards.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No, you're wrong. Also, if you're allergic to peanuts, you need to stop being allergic to peanuts. It's my first amendment right to try force-feeding peanuts to people who are allergic to peanuts and call it medicine.

[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

You shouldn't have chosen to be allergic to peanuts. That is on you.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

There is nothing to "treat". Homosexuality is not a disease.

Conservatism is a disease, though. Maybe we can treat that instead.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Of fucking course Thomas thinks that restrictions on giving out medically unsound advice about ineffective treatments is a "First Amendment issue."

[–] Neato@kbin.social 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Send him to a Conversion Camp for a month if that's what he thinks. Fuck him.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Want a free vacation Thomas? Here ya go mfer.

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito and Brett Kavanaugh

Why am I not surprised?

[–] DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The very worst people we know almost always saying and doing the worst things

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 12 points 11 months ago

It's always the ones you most suspect.

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I'm actually surprised Barrett didn't get in on that.

[–] BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

This is a nice signal that Gorsuch and Barrett do have some level of sincerity in their beliefs about powers reserved to states.

This isn't to say that they're good, but they operate on a very different level than Alito and Thomas, whose primary ideology seems to be whatever owns the libs the most.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I wonder just how angry Trollito was.