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In a characteristically rambling post on Truth Social, Mr Trump said that the indictment ‘hoax’ was the fault of misfits – and mutants

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[–] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 71 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm going to be honest but Trump blaming mutants was not on my bingo card. Is it X-Men variety or more TMNT?

[–] zalack@kbin.social 51 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.one 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Considering how X-Men has long been an allegory for queer identity and the attempted oppression thereof, I hope trans people will take this as the unintentional compliment he didn't intend it to be. In this world where conformity is choking the planet and multiplying suffering, being different is a superpower.

Fuck Trump with a fork along with anyone who supports him.

I just have to tell you your comment really struck a chord with me.

In this world where conformity is choking the planet and multiplying suffering, being different is a superpower.

This is beautifully worded. Keep fighting the good fight and spreading your kindness :)

[–] RealAccountNameHere@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh…oh my fucking god. I thought that Trump couldn't get any lower in my estimation, but here we are.

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[–] exohuman@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Fucking stupid republican probably doesn’t realize the irony in calling trans people Marvel comic “mutants”. The mutants were mistreated by conservatives in those books and rounded up and sent to camps. A holocaust survivor championed their cause leading many to fight back against the human Nazis.

[–] mobyduck648@beehaw.org 18 points 1 year ago

It’s the Warhammer 40k variety and we’re all about to get bombarded from the heavens in the name of the God-Emperor of Mankind for tolerating their presence on Holy Terra no less.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is Swamp Thing a mutant? It'd explain Trump wanting to "drain the swamp"; maybe he was being literal?

[–] MikeHfuhruhurr@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Every time I hear "Swamp thing" I think about this wonderful song.. Please...enjoy: https://youtu.be/r6XFX7vP8i8

[–] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Omg, Trump DC villain confirmed? lol

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[–] zalack@kbin.social 65 points 1 year ago (6 children)
[–] JuniperusVox@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Lol, is that the best they've got for us? I call myself worse things in the mirror. Mutant just makes me feel cool and interesting.

[–] Denaton@programming.dev 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I also want to be an X-Men, this isn't fair!

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[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Considering the traditional stories and plot points central to the X-Men comic/series this is kinda ironic

[–] EyebrowZing@startrek.website 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As I recall, "Mutant, and proud" was a repeated line in the more recent movies used as a rallying cry.

Using the term as an insult is probably counterproductive given the popular media association of stories of people being oppressed for their differences.

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[–] argv_minus_one@beehaw.org 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, trans people have superpowers now? Neat.

[–] GraceGH@beehaw.org 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, we shapeshift really really slowly!

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what a weak derogatory term. "You sly filthy mutants. You are just like those Teenage Turtles or that weird Wolverine guy."

honestly wear it as a badge of honor. Having comic book series made about your character traits is kind of sick. Ngl even for trump thats weak.

[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmy.one 11 points 1 year ago

Fuck this orange shitstain and his barnacles.

[–] sergio@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago

Disappointed but not surprised :/

[–] Plume@beehaw.org 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Republicans talking about Trans people like Nazis talking about Jews episode #853

[–] branchial@feddit.de 46 points 1 year ago (8 children)

More like "Republicans talking about Trans people like Nazis talking about Trans people"

The first of the famous nazi book burnings were targeted at an institute studying and trying to understand trans people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institut_f%C3%BCr_Sexualwissenschaft

[–] Zoop@beehaw.org 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm so glad you replied to that comment with this. I immediately thought the same thing when I read the original comment. Thank you for spreading this important information that too little people know!

[–] branchial@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

Thank you. I think a lot of people think only of the Jewish genocide when they talk about Nazi crimes. While they definitely were hit the hardest and were at the forefront of Nazi hate Germany systematically persecuted communists, LGBTQ and the Sinti and Roma communities as well.

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[–] GreenPlasticSushiGrass@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dehumanization is a page straight out of the authoritarian handbook.

[–] TechyDad@beehaw.org 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I learned how dangerous dehumanization is when I went on a tour of the Holocaust Museum in DC. (SIde note: I recommend going there. It's not a "happy" place to visit, but it's an important one. Give yourself half a day for the museum and half a day to mentally recover. )

At one point, you can go through or around one of the train cars that transported Jews to the death camps. I walked inside and stopped. The plaque had said how many people were crammed inside, but I couldn't mentally fit that many people in the train car.

Then, I realized my mistake. I was trying to fit PEOPLE. Even though the people I was trying to fit in were imaginary, I was still treating them like people. Once I tried fitting human shaped objects into the train car, I could easily fit that many.

Once you dehumanize a group of people, the door is opened to do anything you want to them because all societal guardrails for the treatment of your fellow humans are removed.

[–] Dee_Imaginarium@beehaw.org 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Relevant Pratchett passage:

There is a very interesting debate raging at the moment about the nature of sin, for example,” said Oats.

“And what do they think? Against it, are they?” said Granny Weatherwax.

“It’s not as simple as that. It’s not a black and white issue. There are so many shades of gray.”

“Nope.”

"Pardon?”

“There’s no grays, only white that’s got grubby. I’m surprised you don’t know that. And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That’s what sin is.

"It’s a lot more complicated than that . . .”

“No. It ain’t. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they’re getting worried that they won’t like the truth. People as things, that’s where it starts.”

“Oh, I’m sure there are worse crimes . . .”

“But they starts with thinking about people as things . . . ”

— Terry Pratchett, Carpe Jugulum

[–] ShadowPouncer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Terry Pratchett gave the world so many wonderful things, this definitely being one of them.

I wish that we still had him, even if he would hate what the world is becoming.

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[–] TechyDad@beehaw.org 34 points 1 year ago

Has anyone checked Jack Smith for adamantium claws?

[–] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

He hasn't been shy about talking about trans people. He's guided by the applause lines, constantly a/b testing which ones get him a bigger response, and since the ecosystem of the right has been building us up as the new bad guy, the crowd loves to be reminded that they should be mad about us.

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[–] RadioRat@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well at least "mutant" carries the recognition that it's not a matter of choice. If the tiny trans population is solely responsible for the indictment, then surely that means we're superior mutants at that 😏

[–] KeefChief12@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago

You could say... super mutants.

[–] cowvin@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How long until conservatives try to cancel Marvel for spreading pro-mutant propaganda?

[–] lamentforicarus@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

Well, X-Men has already been compared to the experiences of the LGBTQ+ community so really they should already be upset at them.

[–] ed2417@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

"THE MISFITS, MUTANTS, MARXISTS..." He loves that alliteration even if it makes no sense.

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[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

That must be why Republicans are trying so hard to reduce the budget. They want to free up money so they can spend it building Sentinels.

[–] TheButtonJustSpins@infosec.pub 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does it mean if the X-Men are out to get you?

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[–] Bojimbo@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"REALLY BIG FUNDRAISING, EVEN GREATER POLLS, SINCE THE RADICAL LEFT INDICTMENT HOAX WAS INITIATED BY THE MISFITS, MUTANTS, MARXISTS, & COMMUNISTS! THANK YOU"

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[–] hellothisisdog@yiffit.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

it's like he's playing "guess who" board game, blaming everyone but himself and making sure everyone gets a shoutout

[–] CrimsonOnoscopy@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly. I also raised my eyebrows when he recently started calling people far right lunatics.

[–] hellothisisdog@yiffit.net 7 points 1 year ago

lol bruh, that's your camp xD

[–] CorvusNyx@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

Better a mutant than a Nazi, so nyah :P

[–] GreatBigJerk@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We're going to build Sentinels and Xavier is going to pay for it!

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[–] thatonedude1210@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

Another dog whistle from the tangerine.

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