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Multinationals in particular hiked prices far above rise in costs to deliver an outsize impact on cost of living crisis, report concludes

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[–] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 86 points 11 months ago (27 children)

Real question is what the fuck am I supposed to do about it?
Burning the place down hardly helps and our elected officials don't give much of a shit, at least around here.
I'm well paid, so it doesn't matter too much for my family just yet, but there are people for whom this means food insecurity.
I'm still pissed though, because I think people deserve to eat.

One thing is... it's expensive to save money.
Buying in bulk isn't as bad, but someone living paycheck to paycheck can't afford that.
I have a vacuum machine, the space to store things, freezers, etc.
I can spend more money upfront to save on food in the long run, but not everyone can do this and it hits them even harder.

[–] reversebananimals@lemmy.world 74 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're describing the poverty trap. Its very real. I'm wealthy now as well, but I remember a time when I took the subway 90 mins round trip to my job, and the fare cost almost an hour's pay. So I'd put in 9.5 hours to work an 8 hour shift and my takehome pay was for 7 hours.

[–] Vqhm@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yea, the grind is becoming impossible though. My old man worked a summer job and could afford university all year on that.

After joining the military for the GI Bill, finishing that commitment, I worked in IT to keep us afloat while my wife went to university.

I left at 5AM for work, worked as much OT as I could, after work instead of sitting in traffic or stuffing on the train like sardines I studied, did all my IT certs, and left work at 7pm. The weekends I worked a second job doing IT. All through university I worked IT on nights and weekends.

The grind you have to do to reach "middle" class is becoming: come from money to afford college, or go into debt for life for uni, or work nonstop always.

How can people take care of kids, family?

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 19 points 11 months ago

Yeah, but the temptation to burn the place down is really smoldering.

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[–] ManicZed@lemmy.world 64 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Inflation roughly averages 8% over the last couple years. The price of milk has gone up 300%. These are not the same.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 24 points 11 months ago (3 children)

To be fair, milk specifically should cost a lot more than it does because our dairy agricultural system is disgustingly abusive to cattle.

[–] CyanFen@lemmy.one 34 points 11 months ago

It's also heavily subsidized

[–] Armand11@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

They’re subsidized heavily which keeps consumer costs down, but not sure why that should also lead to abusing treatment

[–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

is disgustingly abusive to cattle.

Also to humans. I am pretty sure there is no minimum wage law in dairy in the US.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I don't have receipts to prove it but I don't think the price of milk has changed all that much. I just got a gallon for like $2.70. Earliest receipt I can find is from Feb of last year and I actually paid a bit more.

[–] girlfreddy@sh.itjust.works 56 points 11 months ago (5 children)

We all knew that. Too bad the Federal Reserve and Bank of Canada ignored every sign pointing to greedy companies causing inflation and instead nailed us to the wall.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

thats by design, its always on us.

capitalize the gains, socialize the losses.

[–] GreenEnigma@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Hupf@feddit.de 5 points 11 months ago

Proletarians of the world, unite!

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago

They exist to support the rich. Low unemployment rates hurt the rich, so they retaliate by raising prices, making people poorer and more desperate and less able to dictate the conditions of their employment. And here we are.

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 55 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is what happens when you fail to enforce anti-trust law.

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 43 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I would love someone to include Canada in these studies. With significantly lower wages than in the US and with the many quasi monopolies in many sectors like telecom and grocery chains and food, I'd like to know how bad Canadians were affected.

[–] Kovukono@pawb.social 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Apparently, at least for groceries, there's an estimated extra $700/year increase next year, with food costs slowing to 2.5-4.5% increases in general, but sticking at 5-7% for bread, vegetables, and meat. It's still going to cost an average 4-person family $16.3k a year for groceries, though (AKA just over half a full-time minimum-wage salary, prior to paying taxes).

Metro reported a 14% increase in profits for their last quarter compared to last year, and Loblaw's 11%. According to Google's earning statements of the last year, Metro has made 27.4% more profits in the last four quarters than they reported in 2020. Loblaws, on the other hand, is actually down 12%, though Google reports they had two really bad quarters this year, and posted a 40% increase in profits between FY 2022 and 2020. So yeah, nothing as egregious as the article, but they're still outpacing (year over year for the last quarter) both regular and grocery inflation.

I'm sure if I really wanted to, I could dig up the same financial information for Soebys, but I have no clue if Walmart and Costco would keep clean financials readily available for Canada.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

Holy shit. Thanks for that.

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Chiming in from Australia, our two main supermarket chains (practically a combined monopoly) turned bumper profits over the last year while inflation has been out of control.

The only good news is one of the minor political parties is trying to push an inquiry into how they managed to make significantly higher than usual profits whilst customers are buying only the absolute essentials and farmers are saying that the price they get for groceries & meat hasnt gone up. However it is a minor party with some power, but not enough to force anything to happen without support from a major party and/or a lot of independants, so we will see how that goes

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 months ago

I feel like what happens in both Canada and Australia are like mirror reflections. Except you have a season where everything carries la catches on fire while ours everything freezes over.

[–] dumpsterlid@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

No war but the class war

[–] NoSpiritAnimal@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's nice they used the word Boosted in the headline.

I was almost mad at the runaway greed of capitalism, but boost just sounds so much nicer than raise.

[–] SOB_Van_Owen@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Not to mention "gouge".

[–] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 18 points 11 months ago

They decided they deserved to make up all the profit they lost during the pandemic, and they were legally able to increase our prices to do exactly that. It's as plain and simple as this.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I seem to recall earlier in the year so called “economists “ were telling everyone it wasn’t.

Or predicting 7 out of the last 4 recessions

[–] LilB0kChoy@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

Yesterday we were shopping at Target and in the frozen aisle they had a sign for the Favorite Day ice cream sandwiches, “Everyday low price $4.99”.

The price on the shelf label, $4.69. Whoops!

[–] pro@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] jasory@programming.dev 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Correct, this is literally how market economics works. The real question is why they weren't able to do it before, since they had the incentive already (and always do).

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