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You can support the legal challenge to stop Lutfur Rahman ripping out cycle lanes and pedestrian infrastructure by donating to the crowdfunder: https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/save-our-safer-streets-in-tower-hamlets/?utm_campaign=claim_submission&utm_source=x

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[–] mr_strange@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] theplanlessman 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm intrigued, which part of the story are you saying that about?

[–] mr_strange@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 11 months ago

Sorry. I find it incredible that anyone would want to roll back the few modest advances towards a sensible, modern cycling and pedestrian infrastructure.

[–] Risk 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Most likely the attempt to depedestrianise an area.

[–] theplanlessman 2 points 11 months ago

That was my thought, but it could also have been aimed at the people fighting against the depedestrianisation.

[–] Transcendant@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

It's insane that this guy was ever allowed back near the levers of power after being caught vote rigging.

What's to say he didn't just learn how not to get caught next time? 5 years was too short of a ban for dodgy Rahman

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Interesting. Obviously safer streets are good and I generally support schemes like this (I cycle pretty much everywhere in London, and walk or take public transport when I don't cycle). But Rahman was elected on a platform that included reversing these measures. I'm not totally convinced that he should be prevented from doing so, even though I don't agree with him.

[–] Mrkawfee 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

He wasn't solely elected on that. His manifesto contained dozens of incoherent contradictory promises. He's a populist and says whatever will get him elected. The fact is that local residents have repeatedly said they want the traffic calming measures to stay and Rahman who claims to be a "listening mayor" is doing the complete opposite. This is culture war posturing and nothing else.

[–] theplanlessman 7 points 11 months ago

If the campaigners are right and what he's done is illegal then opinions don't really matter, he shouldn't be allowed to conitnue pushing this course of action.

[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If saving actual lives isn't enough for you to oppose a "democratic" agenda I wonder where you would draw the line.

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I'm very pro-death. I'm glad you noticed because sometimes people suggest my arguments are a bit too nuanced for people with low reading comprehension, but you've got straight to the key point and correctly identified my pro-death views.

[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

OK dude. But hilarious sarcasm aside, if you don't think these actions should be opposed do you think any manifesto item of an elected official should be given a pass?

[–] frankPodmore@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No. There are obviously limits. 'Exterminate [ethnic group]' should obviously not be given a pass even if you get 100% in a fair referendum.

However, 'these traffic calming measures cause more harm than good' might be the wrong view to hold (and almost always is, IMO), but it's not wrong on a fundamental level.

If the court decides taking them out is unlawful then, hey, it's unlawful, but I don't think it's inconsistent of me to be slightly worried about judicial activism of this kind.

[–] julietOscarEcho@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

OK, so you don't actually disagree with either the community opposition or any potential judicial opinion blocking the measures (provided the basis is in applicable law). Your initial comment reads a little differently.