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[–] Starkstruck@lemmy.world 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Frankly, it would be bad precedent if he wasn't expelled.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It has already set a bad precedent because a) he didn't resign on his own after all what became public knowledge and b) that it took so long to get rid of him after is was clear that he had no honor left.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

The best time to hold Republicans accountable was 60 years ago when they were trying to foment a race war and sabotaging US led peace talks in Vietnam to win a presidential election. The second best time is today.

[–] steve_floof@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Some might say “Expelling George Santos set a good precedent”

[–] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

I am one of those people. He is a conman and a criminal, end of story. This isn't some political gray area here.

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 9 points 1 year ago

And those people clearly hate freedom and a free market /s

[–] Kolrami@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

In theory, yes. In practice, he had to be everything Republicans hated for them to vote against him. I don't believe his lies or suspicious finances were the problems.

The true things about him that got his party to vote against him were: he's gay, he's brown, he's done drag, his Wikipedia page doesn't have a birth place.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I can think of about 50 Republicans and 1 Democrat that also need to be booted.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That ratio seems about right. Who is the Democrat?

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Jamaal Bowman probably. But his pulling a fire alarm to stop House Republicans from fucking everyone over is fundamentally different than anything Santos did.

There's a lot of false equivocation between the two.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

I bet it's Menendez.

[–] Unaware7013@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Why would they expel Bowman for pulling the alarm? Especially when you've got assholes like menendez who are pulling pages from the republicans book of ~~corruption~~ basic congressional tactics.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think you're about 200 Republicans and maybe a dozen Democratic lawmakers low

Quick edit; I'm thinking across both houses of Congress with this count

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Only 50 and 1? I'm thinking quadruple the first number and make the second one what you made the first one. That should get rid of the most corrupt members of the House,.including the top leadership of both parties.

In the Senate I'm thinking 40 of one, 20 of the other.

White House: most cabinet positions, president and vice president are too corrupt and/or incompetent so replace those.

Lauren McFerran can definitely stay. She's doing magnificent work at the NLRB. Probably the best the agency has been doing in my 40 year lifetime.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

You'd think this would have gone without saying, and yet...

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'd like to see more expelled. Starting with those that signed on for OJ's (Orange Jesus) coup.

Also, is there any chance that Santos goes to prison?

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Probably, he went after rich people's money for his own gain, not their's or the party's goal.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does he get any retirement benfits or not

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

He didn't do 5 years, so most likely not. And if the new bill about expelled representatives goes through, it will we upgraded to no.

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Only republicans think that removing a cancerous tumor is a bad thing.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It can be both. Very specifically, expelling someone who hasn't been convicted of anything is bad precedent. But it's also necessary when the crimes are this obvious, this tied in to his job as congressman, and the legal system moves as slow as it does.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

expelling someone who hasn't been convicted of anything is bad precedent

In most cases, I would agree with this. In the case of Santos, I do not. He ran his campaign claiming to be several things he is not. When that information was discovered, I think that would be enough to throw him out. At the point of knowing his entire persona was lies, he was not the person the people elected.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Yes it did! Now I can't STEAL MONEY from my Constituents!

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Crimes aside, his open & admitted lies alone should have been enough to expel him.

[–] Unaware7013@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, but that would require republicans to come up with impossible things, like integrity.

[–] macattack@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I want him gone too, but saying the impact has been minimal a week after his expulsion seems a little myopic.

[–] bilb@lem.monster -1 points 1 year ago

I acknowledge George Santos as rightful president of the united states.