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suarez, griezmann ( who sucked at Barca btw), falcao, morata, Diego costa, Koke ( who is a midfielder) all did very well attacking wise. Even villa and mandzukic also did well in their short time there.
People act like Felix has been very good for Barca when in fact he hasn’t. Two different systems and he’s supposed to be doing better in Barca’s system yet He’s been scoring goals at the same rate he was when he was at atletico.
I mean Joao was a miss however you can't deny that Falcao, Costa, Suarez and Griezmann had a good run in Atletico. In the other hand playing counter attack with plenty of space to run is something a lot of strikes prefer over dribbling three or four players out of their way.
I think Joao fits better under Barca. However he is still inconsistent.
"most players would prefer to touch the ball 50 times than 10 times" - OP
Not Haaland tho.
Either you make yourself good enough to make the team play for you or you change your playstyle to fit the team.
Whether or not he's right doesn't matter. It's a stupid thing to say. If I tell my fictional wife it's easier for me to get an erection to Margot Robbie than her, then that very well may be true, but what on Earth would I gain from saying it?
I also choose this man's fictional wife.
Suarez was good in both but he's another beast altogether
The standard of comparison can't be one of the top 3 strikers of the century :P
2 league goals in 12 games at Barca and 4 in 16 at Chelsea. This is a player that cost 100+ million not long ago. The biggest issue is that he is nowhere near that level regardless of who the manager is.
The Griezmann comparison over one game is also terrible. Griezmann has absolutely thrived under Simeone at Atletico, and that's what a top player actually looks like.
Felix is a bum
He wasn’t right. Lots of attackers have thrived under Simeone. Felix isn’t willing to work hard enough in the system like a Griezmann
He wasn’t right. Lots of attackers have thrived under Simeone.
Lots MORE attackers have thrived at barcelona. ergo, he IS right by your own logic
Felix isn’t willing to work hard enough in the system like a Griezmann
yes, this is correct... but that doesn't make him wrong. his comments are easier to thrive at barca in the possession style, not impossible to thrive at athleti. what he said is factually true for him and his style 100%.
I disagree, so many Barca attackers have failed or not lived up to their potential. At athletico id say not as many
Lots MORE attackers have thrived at barcelona. ergo, he IS right by your own logic
Lol, no, not even remotely close. He is very wrong, and so are you.
Since Simeone came to Atleti, only Messi, Neymar and Suarez have really thrived. Maybe Villa and Lewa first season.
Griezman, Dembele, Zlatan, Auba, Alexis Sanchez, Depay, Alcacer, Munir, Brainwaite, Boateng... Neither of those was really a success.
Now, on Atlético, pretty much every striker they signed became a star and was sold for massive profit: Falcao, Griezmann, Costa, Forlán, Agüero. And to a point, Mandzukic and Villa.
Felix is the first real flop.
Best thing Barca did was get rid of Pessi. Now they play as a team!
There’s being stupid and then there’s this comment
Don’t Atletico Madrid have the most goals in the Champions League. They have been one of the highest scorers in Europe all 2023 so far. Today they didn’t play well for sure but Felix was poor too often
It’s not that they didn’t play well or anything, Xavi was just too good for Simione.
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"When you only touch the ball 5-10 times per game it's harder to perform"
Berbatov : Im sorry, what?
How much touches did he had?
Atletico play more like Barca than Barca do this season. If they had lost or drawn it would have been the other way around.
Ever since Xavi became manager Barca have become Burnleylona. They're an eyesore to watch.
This guy is just constantly spewing out dumb shit
They are different types of players.
Static 10s don't fall into the vertical, pressing and positional style of play we see today. Guys like Felix and Havertz operate in the hole, with two wingers and a striker a head of the. In postional play, you want to open up the hole to have wingers, midfielders or a striker to come into to recive the ball, if there is a 10 in the hole permanently then there will be a 6 playing in the area occupying the space to break up play and press your 10. 10s don't play well through a low block either. If you want to play around the block then you are better off with two 8s who can still deliver and assist but can also provide support defensively on the wings.
Two examples of this is Peps City and Klops Liverpool, who play with a 433, two 8s, two wingers who come inside and a forward that can drop deep (minus haaland)
There are 10s who are successful, Tomas Muller plays there, he has a high work rate and operates more as a shuttler moving around into channels than sitting to play passes. Bruno Fernandes is also an effective 10, he moves everywhere in the opponest half to play passes.
Joao Felix plays on the left now, but is still quite stationary, his movement in the atleti game was almost restricted to an 8th of the pitch (near left quarter of the opponents half)
João Felix and Jackson Martinez are the only strikers I've seen flop under Simeone
Strange, when I played I just cared about the Ws. And Simeone gets that for a club where his style of play has allowed them to even compete with Barca.
It come down to tactic of the manager. Rafa was pretty defensive coach for us but he still gave free role to likes of Gerrard and Torres to do their while the rest did the donkey work for them to shine.
Jao still sucks with Barca, sucked with Chelsea and ducks with Portugal, looks like he just sucks overall
Op, what I can see from your comment is that you think that felix is better when he is able to touch the ball more times per game... Meanwhile that is not resulting in more goals, so what you can really say is that he does not improve his game when he has more time on the ball.
Joao Felix isn't consistent enough for any coach to build the team around. He had 2 goals in la liga. He might want his club to try and play football like Barcelona, but Atletico has more goals than Barca this season and is playing better football, first half tonight aside.
You can absolutely slot him into the Barca team. But you have to retool Atleti if you want him to play, and he's not that good.
Atletico Madrid are a possession side, except when they play Barcelona, Real Madrid or in the Champions League.
This is such a boring and overdone take by people who don't really watch Primera Division matches. Griezmann has been the best player in the league for the last 15 months, and it isn't because Atleti never want the ball.
Felix - 61 touches
Griezmann - 56 touches
Breathtaking difference there
nah he was not. yesterdays game is just a snapshot in time. check the table since felix left atletico. tell me who scores the most goals and who has the most points this season running and then say again that he was right because of one game where barca played their best game so far this season and atletico one of their worst.