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But I'm not looking for a game like Dark Souls.

Recently I've been playing Xcom 2, The Long Dark, and (maybe the outlier) State of Decay 2.

These 3 games are hard as heck in the beginning but just get easier as the game progresses.

In xcom, 4 soldiers, basic abilities is hard. But as soon as you can take more soldiers with better abilities it's gets easier despite there being more and strong enemies.

In The Long Dark the game is hard to start because your gear is rubbish but get some decent clothes, tools and a weapons and the difficulty drops.

SOD2: The outlier because it's a faster paced game. But again, you start out with rubbish gear and no car, but as soon as that changes you're laughing.

So my question is can you guys recommend a 'low skill' game that stays difficult? I'm too old and lack the timing to play souls games.

This War of Mine is a decent example.

Even after you can get water or food set up, dwindling world resources still bites you in the ass.

Thanks for reading and I look forward to your suggestions. (I have a PS5 and Xbox S)

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[–] Mathev@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Unorthodox game - Kenshi.

Your squad can be wiped by a group of goats. Enemies are hard to fight. But the more your characters get better at fighting, the game gets slightly easier.

And then you go to the fog islands..

[–] Flaky_Broccoli@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Nethack, it's free, it's browser based and has enough plugins for different Styles of graphics, if You don't like the ASCII graphics and it's had a Lot of years of content to the point where just learning it takes forever

Also try tales of maj'eyal

[–] _Goose_@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Hades

It's keeps the difficulty fairly high but it also has options to add more to the difficulty in fun ways. And can make it absolutely insane if you feel like it.

[–] stumpdawg@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Super Mario bros: The Lost Levels will chew you up and spit you out.

[–] UncensoredSmoke@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Expect they do not get easier as they go along.

[–] Castelante@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Baba Is You. It's easy to play and understand, fucking brutal the whole way through.

[–] SenordrummeR2@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The Lion King. On second thought, maybe stay away from that one if you have anger issues…

[–] Drydischarge@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Only got ps5 and Xbox unfortunately.

[–] SpecificCancel534@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Try sekiro, one of my favorite games, good luck

[–] You_are_dust@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

I don't know if you'd consider it low skill, but darkest dungeon is pretty hard throughout. The whole premise of the game is that you're going to get messed up and it could be coming at any time. Even the boss fights I've won without losing someone have been rough and stressful.

[–] ledlin99@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Atomic Heart can be challenging. Fun game with lots of stunning visuals.

[–] jedyou@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Control - the game isn't as difficult as something like Dark Souls but combat scales up pretty well. Even late game with upgraded abilities/weapons I've found combat to be less than forgiving -- Jesse is pretty powerful but can also get one or two shotted if you're not careful or economical with abilities and ammo.

It's available on PS5.

[–] SayonaraBakaChan@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] Repulsive-Survey-495@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] WhiskeyJack357@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Look into Paradox games like the crusader kings or hearts or iron series. They have so much complexity that they're as difficult as you want to make them for yourself. They're so slower paced and less reflexes based than say dark souls or some of the aforementioned rogue likes.

[–] syslolologist@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

EVE Online, definitely

[–] Lone_survivor87@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] mq2thez@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I love this game but had to stop playing because I just couldn’t handle watching all of my folks going crazy just to delve and get me resources. I’m a shitty capitalist, I guess.

[–] MRich92@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I’m a shitty capitalist

The second best kind of capitalist.

[–] kraydful@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

bro he asked for a hard game, not prison punishment

[–] Illustrious-Title-38@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I've been really enjoying outward. I guess it's kind of souls like in combat(?) I'd heavily disagree though. But it's been really fun for me lately.

[–] FlyHamsterFly@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Drydischarge@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Love Rimworld, played it a bunch on PC in the past. Just seen there's a console version...is it as good?

[–] Stolehtreb@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I wasn’t expecting it to work but it’s honestly great. I played hundreds of hours on PC, then tried the console version on a whim, and it’s a great couch potato game. Just be careful cause as easy as it is to lose track of time on PC, it’s even easier when you’re completely relaxed on a sofa.

[–] taishiea@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Natural Doctrine. Tactical Game, turn based as in Your turn and then enemy turn.

High difficulty as you can't rush anything, one character dies and you gotta restart from your last save. Enemy is unfair as they will camp choke points and lure you close enough to then pound that one character that is too close. movement is a grid system but at the same time your position in that grid can affect your chances of victory. Line of sight is very important, as if you can see them they can see you making cover hard to use and needing to hug walls very important. Learning curve is high as they don't explain advance techniques but still allows the enemy to utilize them against you until you figure it out.

Game pisses me off to this day, originally released on PS3 but it is one of those games that makes you take your time to plan 20 steps ahead before you move. very satisfying to complete a level.

[–] fkrmds@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

dragons dogma.

easier than dark souls. challenging the entire way through. you really only get super strong in the last 5%, unless you intentionally try to break the game from the start.

[–] boogabooga1111111@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Phoenix point my guy, I’d say the game stays difficult throughout your play through due to enemies being able to evolve based on your play style.

[–] Antisocialsocialite9@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

If you have a switch, Celeste can be pretty damn difficult. They keep a kill count for each level of the game you go thru lol

[–] Classic_Scientist901@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] Billy_Coen@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Dungeon of Naheulbeuk keeps the difficulty high. There are different difficulty option. On the lower option it is challenging but you can do it. Same game mechanics like xcom

[–] JMTwasTaken@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I think many people already gave you great reccomendatuons.

Darkest Dungeon is fames for being hard. As it is a turn-based dungeon crawler/management it's difficulty stems entirely from your own strategy and knowledge and the fact that no matter how buff your characters get, a strategic mistake or a few unlucky hits will quickly put you in your place.

Frostpunk, what other city manager has a fuckin' boss music? Similarly to This War of Mine you never have enough of everything. Your town is always one gone-wrong incident from chaos and something will always go wrong.

Darkwood if you like horror games it's an underaprieciated gem. You do get better gear as you progress but the game does a good job at keeping things engaging till the end.

[–] DapperDebater@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Most games have difficulty settings

[–] AbrasiveDouche@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Age of Empires (or pretty much any RTS game.) Stays equally difficult all the time. You don’t gain an advantage with time. Start on easy and work your way up to harder difficulties.

[–] UncensoredSmoke@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Man why mention this war of mine, now my autistic ass has to hyperfixate on it for the next month.