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Trump is facing multiple charges – but there is one that could seriously harm his reputation
(www.theguardian.com)
What reputation?
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Neat if it happens, but it won't change any opinions. Those already anti-Trump will point to it as another example of how corrupt Trump is and those already pro-Trump will point to it as an example of how the government is out to get him.
I mean... he's already a rapist, found to be 100% liable for his rape by a court, just this year.
And this article is claiming that a blow to his business reputation might change his story.
Rape is bad. People should really take notice of the raping thing.
The people who believe rape is bad have. The problem is the ridiculous number of people who don't really think it's bad.
It's just locker room rape.. /s
Do you think if people started referring to him as Donald Rapey McTrump, that he would be able to sue them for defamation considering he was found in a court to be a rapist?
Too bad our news outlets are huge pieces of shit.
"Why did she wait so long?" There are a million excuses for him.
If you ask an Obama or Carter voter to name some things they didn't like about their candidate they'll give you a long list. All Trumps people are ready to swear he was the greatest President ever.
Exactly. "He was a billionaire when he took the Oath in 2016. The Deep State went after him behind the scenes to strip him of his wealth. I'm signing all my social security benefits over to him today!!"
Oh there's a tiny hands/ penis charge?
We don’t criticize people for things they didn’t choose.
Correction. You don't. I'll laugh at this tiny dick napoleon forever.
You'd be okay with criticizing people for their skin color then? That's also something not chosen. How about gender? You okay with that? Nationality?
It is always wrong to criticize people for things they did not choose, even when the person has made innumerable choices which are well and truly open to vigorous criticism. Your failure to pick literally any of those instead reveals you as a bigot.
No, we laugh at people who pretend they are something they aren't.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
We have been here before countless times: prematurely anticipating the end of Donald Trump on the basis of actions or implications that, for anyone else, would have proven fatal long ago.
Quick recap: the former president is facing four separate criminal cases, involving 91 felony counts, in four separate states; plus a civil fraud case currently being heard in Manhattan; plus a second defamation suit brought by the writer E Jean Carroll, whom earlier this year Trump was found guilty of sexually assaulting and defaming and ordered to pay $5m.
The question in all of these cases is less whether Trump will be found guilty than whether there is any outcome whatsoever that would be capable of preventing him from standing for president next year, or – the more depressing calculation, in some ways – of damaging his chances, if not.
For the former president, the most straightforwardly dangerous criminal trial – that is the one that is, simultaneously, the most serious and also appears to involve the most clear-cut evidence against him – is the so-called classified documents case, brought in Florida by special counsel Jack Smith.
But in the short term it does threaten to unseat his reputation as a businessman of any standing and strip him of his licence to operate a business in New York.
Unlike all the other legal actions against Trump, which he has apparently successfully been able to pass off as part of some vast conspiracy against him, the fraud case, in which it is alleged that he inflated the value of his businesses to secure better loan rates, lands differently.
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Did I miss a charge in the lineup somewhere that indicts him for some form of decency or intelligence? He’s riding the wave of populism, ignorant rage, and authoritarianism. The only thing that would hurt his chances with his followers is if they found out he actually got found out secretly using logic and reason or something.
There is one other case that is a bigger threat to trump. The Colorado suit to keep him off the ballot. Closing statements were made Wednesday and the judge is expected to give her verdict today. This is the first court testing if Trump incited the insurrection. If she judges in favor of the plantiffs, it will set legal precedent that trump incited the insurrection and be a springboard for every purple state.
I imagine the defense have the appeals paperwork ready to file, just in case.
The MAGoos will spin it to say that he lost his fortune because while he was President he couldn't manage his money correctly and blame the Deep State.
Oh? Just one?
Listen. He’s knuckleheaded loyalists have had plenty of opportunity to turn on his traitorous ass. Theirs that remain are too fucking stupid to reason with.
It's not about his base abandoning him because he's no longer a billionaire (if he ever was) or a real estate tycoon. It's that he's built his identity around these things, and that court case could strip him of it.