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[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Because Hollywood ran out of ideas 20 years ago, and comic books are a goldmine of cool stories that they can rehash into profitable action movies.

So those are the big money movies, where actors go to work for big money.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Hollywood could build an entire city out of unused scripts. The problem is not a lack of ideas, it's a lack of tolerance for risk. If you could invest $100 of your own money in a movie, where would you put it? Sequels, action flicks, comic book movies, they have a built-in audience. New stories have to compete with known IPs, and awards don't mean financial success.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are plenty of ideas. The problem is the people running the studios have no interest in the art of filmmaking.

Like every other American economic sector, Hollywood has been taken over by private shareholder proxies demanding studios maximize short term profit formulas literally at the expense of the point of the industry. This means making established IPs over bold, original, innovative aka "risky" scripts.

Thank late stage capitalism for the decline of movies, games, medicine, education, etc. Thank sanctioned insatiable greed as a virtue in the US.

[–] li10 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Comics are full of cool stories, but Marvel just rehashes the same formula for each movie now.

I was hoping for a revamp post Endgame, but for the most part it’s essentially just the same generic movie each time.

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hollywood scriptwriting follows a very strict set of rules now. It's not just marvel, most big budget movies are carbon copies of the same pattern of up and down beats.

[–] downpunxx@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I'm pretty sure they stopped being "cool stories" about 5 years ago, now they're just CGI garbage

[–] Jaytreeman@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

Some people will think that the pinnacle of their career is when they make the most money.
In the arts, that's often when they felt most creatively fulfilled.
There's been some seriously good actors in the MCU, but do you really think Angela Bassett, Natalie Portman or Christian Bale view their MCU roles as the height of their career?
Those roles were paychecks. That's ok, but don't go around pretending they were something else.

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is this the normal thing? 80s was Rambo like, martial arts non-stop action. 90s was more family like movies with comedy. 70s was cowboys and so on.

Just want to say, please American movie makers stop fuckin with anime. You guys suck at making them.

Look at what you did to my beautiful DBZ and Avatar the last air bender.

[–] Tigbitties@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

You guys suck at making them.

SOOO bad... they're fucking clueless.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Tell me one other thing Christopher Reeves did . This is not new

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Tell me one other thing Christopher Reeves did.

Ooh I know this! He severed his spine horseback riding!

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely not the Pinnacle of his career

[–] ivanafterall@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But, on the bright side, it was the day he found his lifelong opposite and rival, Christopher Walken.

[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

My humor tends to run dark, but that was a bit much for me

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Isn't he the nemesis of Adam Driver?

[–] ZhaoYadang@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago

But did you have to Google it?

[–] Tathas@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Saturday night live.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“I had a meeting for a kind of Marvel-y movie, and I had an attitude,” White said. “I think I played it all wrong.” He said he told the Marvel executives, “‘Tell me about why should I do your movie,'” which did not come off well. “They were like, ‘Fuck you,'” White recalled, “and I was like, ‘Right on.'”

having self respect vs MCU execs is a legit super power though

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Oh, so he is projecting his one bad experience onto everyone else because he tried to be sold on a franchise instead of trying to join it.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Totally agree. Superhero movies are bottom-of-the-barrel. They’re a perfect example of how popular ≠ good. And because of them, we have very few quality films being released.

[–] HootinNHollerin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Absolutely. So much superhero & cgi garbage. I think about how many amazing scripts and screenplay are just overlooked. Then they wanna start having ai write

[–] Hotdogman@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Money, that's why.

[–] LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because they are consistently popular fun movies and the best paid. Imagine that, popular media being the most successful.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am confused as to how the same actors end up playing multiple superheroes.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Back in the 1970s, you could make a movie for the cost of a large house. A studio could finance a lot of movies and take risks. Now $100 million for a movie is the norm. You want to take as few risks as possible. That means using popular actors over and over.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just hope it doesn't mean AI actors in the near future. We could potentially be the last generation to see new actors to reach super star status.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Movies didn't kill live theater, and records didn't kill live concerts/cabarets. For all we know, AI might spark a backlash and a return to movies with more 'practical' special effects and less CGI. On the other hand, they used AI to bring John Lennon back from the dead, so we might see a bunch of movies with John Wayne and Marilyn Monroe.