The reason I’d protest is so war doesn’t radicalize more people for Hamas to recruit. Fuck Hamas.
this post was submitted on 03 Nov 2023
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Killing civilians is wrong and world leaders should be held accountable. All imma say.
Nothing really
eh, I dont listen to terrorists
Hamas is not Palestine.
Nothing. What, you think people protest for Hamas?
Hamas definitely thinks so.
And you want people to simply stop protest against genocide because "Hamas think so"?
Well, if the terrorist leaders ask you to do something for them, and you do exactly what they ask, but "for different reasons", I definitely have some questions.
That's akin to saying "condemning Hamas is supporting Israel genocide and oppression of Palestinian". Simply illogical.
I already explained in a different thread, that genocide is purposeful elimination of some nation or ethnicity. For something to be genocide you need an ethnicity and a goal to eliminate it.
Palestinian is not an ethnicity, it's just a place where you live, like Californian. And Israel doesn't have a goal to eliminate them. The target is Hamas, a terrorist organization.
On the contrary, the target of Hamas is elimination of all Jews, which is an ethnicity. They don't even hide their goal, you can read their charter.
I already explained in a different thread, that genocide is purposeful elimination of some nation or ethnicity. For something to be genocide you need an ethnicity and a goal to eliminate it.
Definition
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
- Killing members of the group;
- Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
- Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
- Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
- Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Definition
As ethnic cleansing has not been recognized as an independent crime under international law, there is no precise definition of this concept or the exact acts to be qualified as ethnic cleansing.
A United Nations Commission of Experts mandated to look into violations of international humanitarian law committed in the territory of the former Yugoslavia defined ethnic cleansing in its interim report S/25274 as "… rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by using force or intimidation to remove persons of given groups from the area."
In its final report S/1994/674, the same Commission described ethnic cleansing as “… a purposeful policy designed by one ethnic or religious group to remove by violent and terror-inspiring means the civilian population of another ethnic or religious group from certain geographic areas.”
And Israel doesn't have a goal to eliminate them. The target is Hamas, a terrorist organization.
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On the contrary, the target of Hamas is elimination of all Jews, which is an ethnicity.
b-b-but hamas!
You just repeated what I just said, adding "religious" in bold.
There are plenty of Muslims in the Israeli army, and some of them are currently fighting in Gaza for Israel. There's nothing religious about this conflict.
Well then i'm pretty sure you know what "nation" mean.
The term "nation" along with "nationalism" was invented in England in the 1600s. Before that, people didn't know they belonged to any nation, they identified themselves with religious groups.
And again, Palestinian is not a nation, it's just where you live. If you moved to Gaza, you'd become Palestinian.
That's a long way to say you don't know what nation mean lol.
People are protesting the fact there are dead children, not because they support Hamas.
Exactly. Hamas likes those protests so much, they'll make sure there's more dead children.
Makes me feel pretty much the same way as everything else that a terrorist says publicly:
Very careful and suspicious.
That's called having an agenda.