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[–] Yeah2206@infosec.pub 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I also use Bitwarden. I would recommend it to anyone who can benefit from a cloud-based password manager because the basic functionality is free and the more advanced features (premium, family) are very affordable.

Using Bitwarden safely will make your digital life safer, but it will most likely be more complicated than it is now. You will need to:

  • Use a randomly generated password for the master password, which is unintuitive but increases your safety
  • Enable two-factor authentication (2FA) for all of your accounts that offer it.
  • Make an encrypted backup of your Bitwarden vault.
  • Create an emergency sheet with your master password, 2FA recovery key, and other important information.
  • Plan for what will happen to your passwords if you become sick or die.

You can think about increasing your safety/convenience step by step by keeping a book of password (which can be lost, so has to be kept secure and probably make backup) with

  1. Random password/passphrase generator
  2. Yubikey + recovery numbers
  3. Drop the book, use an offline password manager (which some consider safer)
  4. Switch to cloud-based cross-platform password manager, which maximizes convenience
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[–] Temezi@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Been using the keepass format with varying applications for about 14 years. I used to host it in SVN repo for that sweet sweet cloud access! Not that smart im retrospec.. I feel like you shouldnt trust your passwords to the cloud, especially if their thing is password management. Last pass for example is under constant battery from attackers.

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[–] Blinems@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

I love using 1Password!

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So happy I got 1Password set up and it has treated me right during the years I’ve used it. I wish my parents had such a thing. They have all the passwords written on a sheet of paper that sits under the keyboard. Like the digital version of car keys up in the visor.

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[–] mayo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Keepassxc for storage/backup and then I let the browser save the passwords I use. I like this setup.

[–] subspaceinterferents@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I prefer a password with pronounceable content of nonsense words, separated by dashes, with some numbers and symbols in there somewhere. Such as: tostog-Meenish-flurbit-dalsag-3023# . It's long enough to be very secure, and easy to transcribe if I have to type it. None of the words are in a dictionary. I keep a big list in a note on my desktop, and peel'em off as needed, finally keeping the utilized PWs in Enpass.

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[–] Nitsu29@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

You should really use a password manager so you always have a secure and different password for each site

I recommend KeePass if you want to save your password locally

Or if you want something cloud based then I recommend Bitwarden You can even host your own instance

[–] jzefbeio54@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

KeePass is the perfect tool for me ! The cybersecurity practice at work also use it,

[–] ultratiem@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

1Password since forever. Can’t imagine having to type passwords or remember them.

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[–] Gerula@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I use Firefox's built in password manager because its crossplatform and I can use it on all my devices.

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[–] roht@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Yes, and Bitwarden. Strong master password, with 2FA, and randomly generated passwords for the rest. For deeply personal apps such as banking I do have another localized system though. I moved on from LastPass and never looked back.

[–] xaxl@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Use whatever but also use 2fa as well for every important account that you have.

[–] rivingtondown@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I used to use BitWarden but switched to 1Password about a year ago once I decided to buy a business account for my department at work (which gives every user a free family account)

1Password is fantastic. It stores more than passwords, it's fine tuned to do that, but really can be used to store anything securely. The dev team uses it to share secure .env variables and API keys for example.

One of the best features though is the ability to share secured links to VIEW passwords outside of your network. When a coworker asks me to share an account password I don't just copy and paste the username and password over email. I click share in 1Password and shoot them a link that only they can view (using email 2fa). I can also make more open links to shared credentials that expire (or until I expire those links myself).

The phone app works great and once you get it set up on one device it's easy to configure it on others.

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[–] QwertySpace@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I use KeePassXC and synchronise it with syncthing. This allows me to keep it off devices I have no control over (OneDrive servers) and also allows me to have per device version history.

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[–] richdotward@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=keepass2android.keepass2android

Been using this for years. Hosted via ssh on my server in a ovh data center. Fingerprint access and every single account with a random password.

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[–] ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I've been a KeePass user for over a decade and it's always been good to me, especially when using Box and OneDrive to sync it between devices. The ecosystem is great with enough plugins and support to make it fit your use case on any modern OS.

Can't recommend it enough. Especially over other options that are offered by a commercial company (LastPass for example). Not only because you're intently placing your trust in them to not expose your data and keep it secure, but also because you're giving them a lot of leverage to turn around and hold your passwords for ransom at some point in the future (when they IPO for instance, as a popular example) or lock you out after they fold for whatever reason.

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[–] Trapping5341@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Switched to bitwarden last October and couldn't be happier. Was previously just storing everything in chrome/my Google account. Reused the same password on pretty much every website. When I saw a few articless about chrome causing issues with ad blockers I decided to switch to Firefox which meant having to figure out my passwords. Decided that was a great time to figure out a separate password manager. I still occasionally run into websites I don't use often that still have my old password but for the most part everything is switched over and if 2FA is an option I have it set up. Going through my main sites was a drag but I felt so much better afterwards. I was really shocked at how many websites have really low limits on password length. And how some of the accounts I would really really prefer to have 2FA it's not even an option, looking at you banks.

My work actually just switched payroll companies and when creating my account I noticed the password field was 0/127 so of course I bumped up my password generator to 127 and maxed out the password field 😂

[–] amnesiacrobat@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I’d say they’re pretty much necessary so you can have unique, complex passwords.

I’m currently test driving Proton’s new password manager, I’ve been using 1Password for ages.

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[–] overfox@feddit.de 8 points 2 years ago

Started with LastPass, used it for 10 years. Switched to Bitwarden a while ago, would never go back.

[–] HortiEastwood@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Bitwarden, open-source, free, and awesome!!!!!

[–] WeRememberTheFreeman@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I use KeePass (more specifically KeePassXC). I manually copy my password files around like a caveman but I don't mind. At least my kdbx files are not accessible easily.

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[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Started off with Lastpass free tier, then after they limited the free tier to only one device, switched to Bitwarden.

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[–] jetsetdorito@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

After using one for like 8 years I really don't know how people have the time/energy to make up and remember all their own passwords

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[–] bleeu@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I've used LastPass in the past but now I use bitwarden, gets the job done

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[–] WizzCaleeba@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I can't imagine not having a password manager. I even got my mom to switch to bitwarden. I'm not sure if I just don't know how to do it, but the only thing I wish I could do with bitwarden is share a password with another bitwarden user.

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[–] MrFagtron9000@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

My mom would use the same password for everything or she would mix it up a little tiny bit.

Her passwords were like.

Rainbow2002! rainbow2003 RAINBOW!!!

It was a different word from rainbow, but that's just an example.

I got her using two factor with Google with a really good password and she's using the built-in Google password manager. Now all of her passwords are 20+ random strings instead of a single word with different numbers at the end.

I think that's a much better system than what she was using before.

[–] ZarbtheBard@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well, shit. I don't use a password manager but now I feel like I should lol. Gonna check out bitwarden I guess.

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[–] Crylos@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

1Password for years, never had any issues.

[–] rbar@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I couldn't live without one these days. I personally use Bitwarden. I have tried most of the other manager suggested in this thread. They each their own benefits. I would recommend one of the hosted services for most people (1password, Bitwarden, not LastPass). I came to prefer Bitwarden for their combination of features and openness. I have self hosted it in the past, but these days just use their hosted service.

There are a lot of side benefits to using one besides just remembering your usernames and passwords for you too.

  • It lets you use catch-all emails if you have your own email domain
    • allows you to give services their own address to track abuse
    • makes you more resistant to someone taking your leaked credentials from one site and using it for another
    • easier spam filtering
  • Most password managers support random password generation
  • Saving things that aren't logins
    • Family member's SSNs and DL numbers
    • Credit cards
    • Wifi passwords
    • Gate codes
  • Sharing always up to date passwords and other secrets with people (for hosted options)
  • 2FA is easier
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[–] ArghZombies@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I've used 1Password for years. Works well on all my devices (MacBook and Samsung Galaxy phone). I'd absolutely recommend you use one.

Not only are they great for handling complex passwords, but a benefit I've not seen mentioned here is that they are a way of just keeping track of just how many sites and accounts you've registered with.

For example - You buy one product once from an online store, save a password so you can monitor the order status but never use that site again. Before I used 1Password I'd just have forgotten I'd even used that site. But now I can just look down my 1password account and see a whole list of all these passwords and accounts ive created. And there's loads. You forget just how many online accounts and passwords you have out there.

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[–] LightDelaBlue@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use keepass 2 with a self hosted nas for the main flle .

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