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[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

“I have seen soldiers who do not take care of their weapons before leaving the base."

Amerikan troops do that too...

"No army in the world behaves like this. The soldiers carry their smartphones with them everywhere."

Amerikan troops do that too...

"Commands are sent via WhatsApp groups."

lmao wait real talk what the fuck

[–] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

There was discussions in resistance medias about how, during the beginning of Al-Aqsa Flood, the occupation soldiers was stuck communicating over tiktok because the Resistance had used a cyberattack to disable all their internal communications.

Seems they switched to whatsapp 🤭

Edit: I found the article.

According to this article with insider information, the cyberwarfare of the resistance shut down all zionist communications networks in a 40km radius around Gaza for the first 24 hours of the Al Aqsa Flood Battle. Subsequently the occupation bases were stormed without any alarms. "Occupation soldiers were forced to communicate over tiktok to make distress calls."

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Occupation soldiers were forced to communicate over tiktok to make distress calls."

Tik-tok dancing to request evacuation

[–] supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 year ago

I guess using "attractive" idf soldiers for recruiting backfired during the operation.

[–] Magos_Galactose@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“Commands are sent via WhatsApp groups.”

I want to see how my former OPSEC instructor would react to this information.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 1 year ago

Oh my god mine'd go fucking nuclear. Absolutely, fucking nuclear. Hell, I used to be an opsec manager and the reaction I typed out this morning was a MUTED instance of what I was feeling irl in the moment.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The same reaction exhausted bewildered look your senior NCO gets during a 'no dumb questions' session when he gets a really really really dumb question like "Sergeant, where does the sun go when it gets dark outside" or "Sergeant, if our knees bent backwards what would our chairs look like?"

sergent when the tv turns off where do the little men go and are they ok

[–] Aru@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 1 year ago

I can confirm, I lurk a discord server that has some IOF combattants, all they do is fuck around

[–] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Paper fucking tigers...

[–] idahocom@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Remember when the pic of some Ukrainian command center had discord taking up a whole monitor.

[–] captcha@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“The current situation of the land forces is tragic, they are not ready for war. Emergency supplies are not available, exercises have stopped and the battalions have not trained in years. There is also no weapons training and education, and the army is not capable of carrying out an attack.” The former ombudsman added that technology alone is not enough to win wars. “The truth is that an imaginary reality has been created by the general staff and spread throughout the army. The soldiers have lost their motivation and fighting spirit in recent years, and many are not ready to go into battle.”

Good morning! That bit I bolded has got to be an exaggeration right? Or is the IDF just some sort of failing indoctrination program?

Uncritical support to any IDF soldiers who learn how to frag an officer.

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's possible. Might be an exaggeration but also entirely possible for this army. They have to set aside some time to learn tactics to terrorize Palestinians you know, and boot camp only lasts so long.

Just over the past two weeks there's been at least 5 reports of the IDF shooting at each other by mistake.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

and boot camp only lasts so long.

Shit, if they're using our tactics, it probably lasts south of 3 months tops; with no more than another 3 for whatever tech training equivalent they've got.

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Critical support to the bad tactics

[–] captcha@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just over the past two weeks there's been at least 5 reports of the IDF shooting at each other by mistake.

I've heard rumors of these but have not seen a single article about it. Do you have one handy?

[–] CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here's just one video: https://t.me/GazaNewsPlus/3863 (settler shot by either another settler or IDF). This channel generally catalogues them but it's all in French. I can try searching for more posts but I'm not sure which keywords they used in the posts.

[–] Sinonatrix@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Rare anti-terrorist IDF W

[–] Sleazy_Albanese@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

do not look at the front page of that website. Good lord!

[–] Addfwyn@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago

The Israel TLD is apparently blocked by my office and I find that hilarious.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 1 year ago

It's pretty grim shit.

[–] ButtigiegMineralMap@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If a current IDF dude said it I would say it’s a tactic to get more military funding but ex-IDF sorta implies he knows more than we do about the situation

[–] D3FNC@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not really any such thing as ex IDF, or ex flag officer

I was thinking that after I posted, to a certain extent, nobody ever LEAVES those orgs, soldiers are different tho. Mike Prysner being a good example of that(US Army not IDF tho)

[–] appel@whiskers.bim.boats 18 points 1 year ago

How are those 100m jets working out for ya son

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't be too optimistic, Israel still has overwhelming firepower and manpower advantage. They can just shell Gaza until there is no more buildings standing anymore, and then send the troops in. Losses would be still high, probably.

[–] Magos_Galactose@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Loss will definitely be high in such scenario. Bombarding a city to rubles rarely work to the advantage of the invader. It didn't work in German favor during Battle of Stalingrad. It didn't work in British's favor during Battle of Caen. I doubt it would work in IDF favor here, especially against people who have a lot of explosives and nothing to lose.

But yeah, it's going to be ugly, especially consider how little IDF care about collateral damage.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The difference is that in those battles sides were pretty evenly matched in terms of firepower. In our case Israel hold an overwhelming advantage. They have an advantage in the amount of explosives too.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of their advantage is negated in urban warfare though, and their prior incursions into Gaza went poorly to say the least.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's why I'm saying that losses would still be high.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

For sure, traditionally Israeli military is very loss averse, so if things go as well as most people expect then it's not going to be a long operation.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For sure, but looks like it could end up being a debacle for Israel in the end.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the last 70 years have been a debacle for Israel it hasn't stopped them yet

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

This could be on a much bigger scale than anything we've seen before.

[–] Mzuark@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This actually does a good job of explaining why Israel talks such a big game but won't actually go through with the ground invasion: They can't. They don't have the ability to actually engage another army, or even an armed civillian force, so all they do is drop bombs or take pot shots at civvies.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Pretty much, and given how US is now stretched thin after a year and a half in Ukraine, seems that Israel's bluff might get called this time around.