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[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Don't be too optimistic, Israel still has overwhelming firepower and manpower advantage. They can just shell Gaza until there is no more buildings standing anymore, and then send the troops in. Losses would be still high, probably.

[–] Magos_Galactose@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Loss will definitely be high in such scenario. Bombarding a city to rubles rarely work to the advantage of the invader. It didn't work in German favor during Battle of Stalingrad. It didn't work in British's favor during Battle of Caen. I doubt it would work in IDF favor here, especially against people who have a lot of explosives and nothing to lose.

But yeah, it's going to be ugly, especially consider how little IDF care about collateral damage.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The difference is that in those battles sides were pretty evenly matched in terms of firepower. In our case Israel hold an overwhelming advantage. They have an advantage in the amount of explosives too.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of their advantage is negated in urban warfare though, and their prior incursions into Gaza went poorly to say the least.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's why I'm saying that losses would still be high.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

For sure, traditionally Israeli military is very loss averse, so if things go as well as most people expect then it's not going to be a long operation.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For sure, but looks like it could end up being a debacle for Israel in the end.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the last 70 years have been a debacle for Israel it hasn't stopped them yet

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

This could be on a much bigger scale than anything we've seen before.