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[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago

From the Washington Post:

The Order of St. George, an associated order of the church, issued a statement confirming the strike. “Archbishop Alexios appears to have been located and is alive, but we don’t know if he is injured,” the Order of St. George stated. The blast hit “two church halls where the refugees, including children and babies, were sleeping.”

[–] NecoArcKbinAccount@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago

the church was 1600 years old too

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Just a quick note, we're seeing reports on this post complaining that it's coming from Al Jazeera.

AJ is a left of center source and does tend to lean on loaded words, but they are not considered to be factually dishonest. Well, as long as it's not about Qatar. They do have an obvious blind spot there.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/al-jazeera/

"These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information but may require further investigation. See all Left-Center sources.

Overall, we rate Al Jazeera Left-Center biased, based on story selection that slightly favors the left, and Mixed for factual reporting due to failed fact checks that were not corrected and misleading extreme editorial bias that favors Qatar."

[–] generalpotato@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Also why Israel is after actively banning Al Jazeera. They are trying (desperately) to hide their war crimes and the genocide.

https://lemmy.ml/post/6760749

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not pro Israel so it's clearly biased and anti semitic. Delete it now.

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[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For anyone else who doesn't like Al Jazeera, here is an article they wrote 4 days ago about this very church being the last refuge for hundreds of displaced civilians who had nowhere left to turn. Thankfully it's hosted on MSN, so it's not fully taboo to read about the horrified people who were at their wits end trying to escape death and largely accepting the futility of the effort.

Any strike on the church “would not only be an attack on religion, which is a vile deed, but also an attack on humanity”, Father Elias said. “Our humanity calls us to offer peace and warmth to everyone in need.”

George Shabeen, a Palestinian Christian and a father of four sheltering in the church with his family, said they had nowhere else to go; their streets had been targeted by three Israeli air raids.
“Coming here saved our lives,” he told Al Jazeera. “During the night, we huddle together, Muslims and Christians, old and young, and pray for safety and peace.”

If someone at the IDF read through some of this propaganda then maybe they wouldn't have put a bomb right next to the church.

Oh well, everyone makes mistakes.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I personally would trust Al Jazeera (The international English speaking one) more than MSN.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 8 points 1 year ago

Al Jazeera has biases, like every media organization, like Reuters, like the BBC, like the guardian. They're supposed to be one voice in a choir of voices. The reporting is excellent. While they demonstrate their biases by what they cover, I've always found the reporting to be professional and excellent.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

The first report is always wrong.

[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago
[–] saze 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bet they have proof Hamas did it.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

More "totally legit audios" in Arabic spoken with Hebrew accents.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Washington post confirms video with Geo-location

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hard to see what's what in there. I'd be interested in confirming or disproving Israel's account:

The Israeli military told AFP that its fighter jets had hit a command and control centre involved in launching rockets and mortars towards Israel.

“As a result of the IDF [Israeli army] strike, a wall of a church in the area was damaged,” it said, adding “we are aware of reports on casualties. The incident is under review.”

Witnesses said the attack damaged the facade of the church and caused an adjacent building to collapse, adding that many injured people were evacuated to hospital.

If this is true, then you would think most of the church is still standing.

[–] stankmut@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Daytime photos show that this is the building next to the church. The church itself is still standing, though one wall was destroyed.

[–] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (9 children)

https://streamable.com/bobmch

Lots of Christians dead for a church that's "still standing"

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