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Did Google really just say they'll delete accounts "together with all data"? ๐Ÿ˜… (media.kbin.social)
submitted 1 year ago by pollodiabolo@kbin.social to c/technology@lemmy.world
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[โ€“] StopMassDownvotingYouIdiot@kbin.social 98 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

@pollodiabolo, it's interesting that whenever you post, you get boosts from the same set of accounts that downvote every other thread that trends towards the top. And all this happens roughly within a 10 minute stretch! Incidentally, this happens when those other accounts post too! How strange amirite? Wonder if there's an explanation?

@journalism_died @ishitwhite @muftiboy @kilkennygriffin and way more than I can tag here

EDIT: A few more - @jeremyfurzen @riseupagainstthem @ruse-of-metacarpi @johnson_waters @cazzodicristo @at-fieldu

I suspect a bunch more just to be clear, this is not a comprehensive list. But mentioned accounts are beyond a reasonable doubt either the same person or different people collectively vote manipulating.

[โ€“] Wander@yiffit.net 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice catch. With upvotes and downvotes being public manipulation is much more difficul

[โ€“] violetgreendev@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How can you see who's voting?

[โ€“] invisiblegorilla@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm pretty sute the admins can see all the actions on the instance. This reporting is valuable as fuck to spot manipulation

Edit: replied to wrong post..

[โ€“] StopMassDownvotingYouIdiot@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Yes @at-fieldu I know it's you too don't feel left out

[โ€“] progenyofthestars@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thanks, gonna block all these!

[โ€“] StopMassDownvotingYouIdiot@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

That wouldn't help you much sadly. This person has at least 10-15 accounts (that I can reasonably suspect based on their boosting history) and they will definitely make even more as people get to know about them. You can expect an increase in shills as kbin becomes more popular too lol.

[โ€“] StopMassDownvotingYouIdiot@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Added a few more for ya.

[โ€“] Niello@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

It's nice to know some of the posts I've seen those accounts downvoted aren't by people who're really downvoting what the content is about.

[โ€“] FaceDeer@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, according to this.

[โ€“] blaine@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you read it closely, they say they "reserve the right to" delete the accounts/data after 2 years of inactivity. They don't actually say they will.

[โ€“] at-fieldu@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ohhh now this makes more sense than the misleading headline. they're just saying "we wanna keep your data, but we also don't wanna be liable in case us having your data ever becomes a problem to us, so we reserve the right to get rid of it whenever we want for no reason and claim we never had it in the first place

[โ€“] sadreality@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Do you really think they deleted or they just cut your access?

[โ€“] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Oh, they said that they will:

We are going to roll this out slowly and carefully, with plenty of notice:

  • While the policy takes effect today, it will not immediately impact users with an inactive account โ€” the earliest we will begin deleting accounts is December 2023.
  • We will take a phased approach, starting with accounts that were created and never used again.
  • Before deleting an account, we will send multiple notifications over the months leading up to deletion, to both the account email address and the recovery email (if one has been provided).

Source: https://blog.google/technology/safety-security/updating-our-inactive-account-policies/

[โ€“] Pseu@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Once the raw emails have been fed into their ad targeting system, the content of those emails loses the vast majority of its value. Storage is cheap, but not free and inactive accounts have particularly low value. So of course they'll delete the data.

[โ€“] sadreality@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Ahh this makes more sense... I would think they would still keep the raw data... Never know about future use cases.

[โ€“] src@lemmy.swrc.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can you provide some context for this? What happened?

[โ€“] Martineski@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I made this post and people oppose the idea that google will actually do it

[โ€“] at-fieldu@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

ohhh now this makes more sense than the misleading headline. they're just saying "we wanna keep your data, but we also don't wanna be liable in case us having your data ever becomes a problem to us, so we reserve the right to get rid of it whenever we want for no reason and claim we never had it in the first place

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