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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 103 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Do you remember that time Israel blew up a building that had housed various press institutions, including the AP who had used the building for 15 years? And then claimed they had no idea the press used that building? And then said "well, we had evidence HAMAS was using electronic warfare to jam the ~~missiles we use to attack Palestine~~ Iron Dome defense system in that building, but you can't see it, but you can trust us, we showed America"? And then the US said "uh, no you didn't"?

Pepperidge Farms remembers.

[–] shunir@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah it was just a little bit over 2 years ago.

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As I started to read I kept thinking didn't these idiots also shoot at the press the previous years of land grabbing. Now they did this.

Very fuckin suspicious Israel. Really fuckin sus.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the second time in this conflict. Journalists were killed in North Gaza a few days ago

[–] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Oh great. Not sus at all.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (41 children)

Media after media I see this same echoed sentiment and emphasis on emotional imagery from the attacks in Israel, which while absolutely devastating, was not done in isolation. I have yet to see anyone among my normal news circles raise the fact that there have been 10x the civilian Palestinian deaths in recent decades as there has been Israeli.

Are peoples' brains that short-sighted they can't comprehend this or what...? Or is it just that these journalists are so fearful of being witch-hunted for contrarian thoughts?

[–] Krono@lemmy.today 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its manufacturing consent .

The US state department picked a side in this conflict over 3 decades ago. The state-run media like PBS and NPR pick up the propaganda lines naturally. The national media such as NYT and NBC value their state dept contacts and armed forces advertisement dollars more than they value journalistic integrity.

After 30 years of the manufacturing consent feedback loop, here in the US we end up with a national media ecosystem that is more sycophantic to Israel than even the Israeli media. Haaretz features dissenting opinions that you can't find in national US media.

This metaphorical frog started boiling decades ago, finally most of the water is boiling off and it's really starting to stink.

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I'm familiar with the notion of Manufactured Consent and to be clear I agree with much of what you say. Though I think it should be noted that neither NPR nor PBS are state-run. At least, nowhere near comparable to something like RT or even BBC or Al Jazeera.

A majority if their support comes from viewers. However, that being said, some of the larger donors and sponsors to both of these news outlets originate from a specific ethnicity, which I believe may put the reporters and columnists in a bind.

Ultimately it's risky business to go against the pro-Israeli sympathetic sentiment right now. Journalists risk being shunned or worse, accused of being antisemitic or sympathetic to terrorists.

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[–] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IDF loves to murder journalists

[–] generalpotato@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

*IDF loves to murder.

[–] guriinii@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So they're attacking Lebanon and international press now. Are the western governments still going to support them?

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

They've been killing journalists for years. Just last year, the IDF shot and killed an American journalist for Al-Jazeera

[–] OccamsTeapot@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Of course they are. Fucking cowards. Imagine if Hamas had done this

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know Israel is some kind of diplomatic darling but killing Innocents and moving into their homes makes it hard to take their side. Killing in retribution usually is hard to align with.

[–] Mafflez@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly I'm at the point where we should evac all civilians and just nuke the area and NO ONE can have the fucking land.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Calm down, Yahweh.

[–] Piecemakers3Dprints@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Can we also have an unchecked scheduling error involving a certain spray-tanned toddler of a man baby visiting the site post evac but pre-launch, please? Maybe even a PPV stream set up to televise his podium speech but accidentally streams the breath of fresh air for the world, instead? 🤷🏼‍♂️

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is my view on Jerusalem. Abrahamic religions can get fucked. If you three can't share your toys they should be taken away.

Edit: okay, not my actual view as in if I had the power, but like my nuclear option.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Holy shit this is titled so poorly. I honestly thought it was because a lemming retitled it, but, no, CNN just sucks at writing.

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