this post was submitted on 14 Oct 2023
467 points (98.5% liked)

Climate - truthful information about climate, related activism and politics.

5053 readers
475 users here now

Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

Recommended actions to cut greenhouse gas emissions in the near future:

Anti-science, inactivism, and unsupported conspiracy theories are not ok here.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 130 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Rolling coal is the practice of installing a tampering device to pump more diesel into a vehicle’s engine than it can handle, leading it to spew out sooty black clouds of exhaust that pollute the air.

The practice is sometimes used as a form of anti-environmental protest. Coal rollers, or the drivers who engage in the action, may intentionally target Teslas, Priuses or other electric or hybrid vehicles.

Some people's dedication to being an asshole is quite astonishing. Imagine paying money just to be able to spew soot at other people's electric cars.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

Some people are here to ~~watch~~ make the world burn.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

It's also a practice to used to attack other drivers, pedestrians, cyclists, motorcyclist etc by blowing black soot in your face. Its often dangerous because it creates a smoke screen where you can't even see the road.

[–] TQuid@beehaw.org 4 points 11 months ago

Their favourite target is cyclists, as you might expect.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] colourlesspony@pawb.social 84 points 11 months ago (2 children)

As a person who enjoys clean air I approve of this.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 48 points 11 months ago (3 children)

As a person, I approve of this.

[–] UncleStewart@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)
load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

As a mammal with lungs I approve.

[–] donuts@kbin.social 53 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Good, fuck those guys.

I'm not against people having trucks or modifying them for performance or off-roading or whatever, but people who modify their truck for no other reason than to pollute more are nothing but fucking assholes.

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

As long as the performance mods don't make them louder and they're driving them at night. Or if they do things like put bigger rims on and then complain about potholes in the roads or park in EV spots.

Unfortunately though, a lot of these people are peacocking, and many of them only modify their cars to ensure others notice them (which unfortunately also means annoying/inconveniencing others)

Many of biggest badasses I've met when hiking or mountaineering, drive the crappiest cars ever (some of them drive crappy old sedans)

[–] Reality_Suit@lemmy.one 35 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The bigger the truck, the more fragile the man.

[–] 768@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's called petromasculinity.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] StringTheory@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago

These are the same folks who think that the pinnacle of comedy is farting as you leave a crowded room.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 23 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Wait... Ebay is merely a marketplace where people or vendors use the platform to sell their goods.

Shouldn't the individuals be sued?

Or maybe it's because they could be in another country, so they go after the platform itself for allowing such devices to be sold?

[–] Vode_An@lemmy.ml 47 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Going after the marketplace is a more efficient strategy than playing whack a mole with individual sellers.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Also being a marketplace they do have a duty to make sure that people are not selling illegal items on their platform.

Because if platforms didn't could you imagine how bad the Internet would be for buying things.

[–] Vode_An@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don't disagree. I am generally in favor of keeping markets on a short leash. As you said, it could be a lot worse.

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago

Exactly, keeping markets on a shorter leash is also something I'm generally in favor of

[–] Damage@feddit.it 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The correct way would be to go after the buyers

[–] DeepFriedDresden@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The war on drugs would like a word.

[–] 520@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

As would the RIAA's war on piracy. Despite the exhorbitant fines being handed down, I don't believe they've made any profit from them.

[–] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's a political bomb though. This accomplishes the same end goal and is a strong enough warning to prevent similar markets popping up in the future

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Agreed, but I hope they go after the sellers, too.

[–] You999@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Merketplaces can be held liable for third party sellers merchandise as it's ultimately up to the marketplace to chose what is allowed and prohibited to be sold.

Imagine a marketplace allowed vendors to sell human slaves and the government tells that marketplace that is very much not okay stop it. If that marketplace continues allowing third party vendors to sell human slaves then that marketplace has now also broken the law along with the third party vendor and potentially even the purchaser depending on how the law was written.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago
[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why not go after both?

They should then request all purchases of the devices, and go after the buyers too.

As a bonus, a lot of the people buying these are probably wife beaters or toxic f**wits. So, screw protecting them..

[–] emptiestplace@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's confusing because I kinda agree with some of your stereotyping and I'm not confident that is a good thing.

[–] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

It's anti-social behavior.

[–] fckgwrhqq2yxrkt@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago

It's not a good thing, its a way to divide us and make us hate. Don't fall into that.

[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

I dunno, the article is pretty weak on details. Curious what comes of it.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

I agree, hitting a couple of these sellers and manufacturers with multi-million dollar fines would be fucking great. They have to go onto X and complain to their drifting buddies that the only way to support Trump would be to bail them out of jail.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'd love to see a bounty system for this. If I send my dashcam footage of some asshole rolling coal to the DOT I get a (untaxed) cash reward and the coal-roller gets a large fine and mandatory prius they have to drive for 3 years.

[–] 1847953620@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Then they'd realize Priuses actually haul ass from a stop and we'd start to see the first lifted Priuses with mud tires blaring twangy songs about going about life blaring twangy songs in a Prius

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Prius kick ass.

That is all I have to say about that

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

now that many are on their second and beyond owners, priuses are mean aggressive little things

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 17 points 11 months ago
[–] perestroika@slrpnk.net 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Ebay denied the charges in a public statement, saying it has blocked "more than 99.9% the listings for the products cited by the DOJ, including millions of listings each year."

A court will determine if that claim is true, but if yes, EBay as a market platform won't be liable. A 99.9% interception rate would indicate a considerable effort to prevent illicit trades.

[–] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago

It is true. You will have your listing removed if you try to list something as an emissions defeat device. If you try a second time then your account will be banned.

I listed a carb exempt factory performance ecu made by the vehicle manufacturer and it was removed for going against the tos.

Although they do allow universal ecus like mega squirt. I could see performance programmers sneaking through if they avoid specific language. eBay can't know the specifics of every single item that gets listed.

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 months ago (3 children)

interesting they're not going after Amazon for the same thing

[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago

Hopefully that's a "Not yet," but we'll see

[–] discodoubloon@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

Hopefully reviewers that care will step out and share how crazy the company is. They are full-bore disregarding the entirety of the manual suggesting how to legally sell things.

[–] Auzy@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

Not yet..

Sadly, some knobs will go to extreme efforts to try to impress people to be different and stand out. Stuff like this is GENUINELY an attempt to mask their insecurities

[–] r0bi@infosec.pub 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know about other states, but in Texas they don't even test diesel emissions during our annual registration / inspection. Totally ridiculous!

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Vehicle inspections are going away entirely in Texas in 2025.

[–] discodoubloon@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Is this a first posture against Amazon? They've been selling fake UL listed (terrible, terrible electrically charged garbage) for years and they have never gotten a take down notice. Clipping on a nightlight outlet face-plate to energized (you can't turn these off with a light switch) active terminals is the craziest one I've soon so far.

edit: Amazon has sold 100k of these, this should be an insurance nightmare......

light arcing > corroded metal > more resistance > fire.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ebay doesn't sell anything. It's just a marketplace. Why wouldn't they pursue the people and companies actually selling these devices?

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›