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A group of House Republicans from New York are introducing a resolution to expel Rep. George Santos, R-N.Y., from Congress.

"Today, I’ll be introducing an expulsion resolution to rid the People’s House of fraudster George Santos," Rep. Anthony D'Esposito, R-N.Y., said in a post on the social media platform X.

He said the resolution will be co-sponsored by fellow New York House Republicans Nick LaLota, Mike Lawler, Marc Molinaro, Nick Langworthy and Brandon Williams.

Booting Santos would require a two-thirds vote of the entire House.

The move comes a day after federal prosecutors issued Santos a 23-count superseding indictment alleging he committed identity theft, fraud and other offenses. Santos has said he plans on fighting the charges and pleaded not guilty to the charges in the original 13-count indictment earlier this year.

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[–] LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works 146 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Imagine being such a piece of shit that even the Republicans don't want to associate with you.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 126 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's because he fucked with their money...

He made up like 500k in donations so that the Republican party would "match" and they gave him 250k.

So now the other Republicans who could have gotten that money are pissed

[–] CarlsIII@kbin.social 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also, they’re idiots for just taking his word for it.

[–] D1G17AL@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

The schadenfreude ... by the gods it's delightful.

[–] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Wodge@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Should've used the blockchain or something!!11!one!!1

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 year ago

Winner winner chicken dinner. They don’t give a fuck about all the bigots and rapists in office, it’s sticking your hand in the cookie jar that’s the real sin.

[–] thesprongler@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It took a 23-count indictment to make it happen, however.

[–] LarryTheMatador@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You have to break 50 indictments to be considered ~~presidential~~ crownable

FTFY

Don't think there's a word for the appointment of a dictator.

[–] Wodge@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Don’t think there’s a word for the appointment of a dictator.

A "Coup" i guess.

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[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

It wasn't so much the 23 counts as it was the fact that he basically stole money from the Republican party. Theft of (Republican) money is the most heinous of crimes!

[–] Neato@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't really get it. Santos is the most Republican to have every Republicaned. He's a lying, grifting, fraudster who knows practically nothing about anything and only got where he was by lying his way in and betraying the trust of everyone who backed him. He's so unhinged he doesn't even know where his lies stopped.

He's like the American conservative mascot. I'm surprised they don't name him Speaker.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don’t steal from the rich

[–] RHSJack@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

It's the oldest rule from the oldest thieves' guilds from before there were cities: It's OK to take a little from Jimmy's cut, maybe OK to take a little off what you were gonna give to your mother, but you never. NEVER. take anything from the capo. The boss.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

It’s all a stunt. These republicans are just saving their own skin, fully knowing that vast majority of their own party won’t expel this asshat.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

He's not popular and doesn't bring in any money.

[–] RojoSanIchiban@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Plot twist: the Republicans will now fail to elect a speaker so the resolution will never be read.

[–] Heresy_generator@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, they've given George Santos a perverse incentive to vote against any viable speaker candidate to prevent this measure from coming to the floor. Or he could make his vote contingent on the new speaker not bringing it.

[–] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can’t he also bring up a vote to unseat any speaker? The Gift That Keeps Giving.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I was gonna say...can they even do that without a Speaker?

So this is just performance, it seems, with no ability or intention of following through.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 41 points 1 year ago

It's New York GOP, not the entire party. The New Yorkers need to have some cover, but know that the rest of the party will kill the resolution.

Political theater.

[–] argo_yamato@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But it takes 2/3 to remove him. No way there are enough Republicans with morals and integrity for that to happen.

[–] ski11erboi@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wait so only republicans vote? I thought it was the whole house.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It is the whole House. Right now, there are 221 Republicans and 212 Democrats. So 289 votes are needed to expel Santos. You can safely assume that all Democrats will vote to expel so the Republicans will need to come up with 77 more votes. ~~This is a little over half. If half of all Republicans can't agree on this, it will fail.~~ A little over a third of Republicans would need to vote for this.

Edit: 289 votes are needed, not 325.

[–] GopherOwl@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How did you get 325? There are 435 members normally (433 assuming your numbers are right with vacancies, which seems believable.) 2/3 of 435 is 290.

So you'd only need ~78 republicans with morals. Still wouldn't happen, but weirder things have.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Oops. You're right. I'm not sure how I made that mistake. I'll edit my comment.

[–] roy_mustang76@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 year ago

It is, but you'd need a substantial portion of Republicans to break ranks and vote to expel a member of their own party (reducing their vote margin) in order to expel him, since the Republicans are the majority

I hope to see it but certainly not holding my breath.

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[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

the social media platform X

It's still funny that people have to say stuff like this now instead of just "Twitter".

[–] mogul@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I'd prefer if they'd just say "stupid fuck Elon Musk's X"

[–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Proof your rebranding has failed.

[–] lemme_at_it@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It looks like he went for a thorough de-brand more than a catchy rebrand.

[–] MonsiuerPatEBrown@reddthat.com 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

one edge of the Republican values envelope has been located

My reading of that headline was a rollercoaster.

First I read it as "Republican Lawmakers introduce resolution...", and I was excited and pleasantly surprised.

Then I reread it and realized it was, "Republican Lawmakers to introduce resolution...

And suddenly I was Dwight Schrute.

[–] Hedup@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does it work? If there were a third party in the congrees, would the two biggest parties just be able to expel all members from that party from house since they can easily get 2/3 majority?

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

In theory yes, in practice not so much since they'd probably be useful to one side or the other for votes.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Notice how this was conveniently done at a time when the House is shut down and there's zero chance that this is actually taken up.

They have to find a speaker first. Then we have issues like Ukraine and Israel to deal with. And then we're right up at the time where the GOP will manufacture another debt ceiling "crisis". Then maybe they'll find time to expel one of their own mem........oh I can't even finish typing that sentence. You know they'll just never mention it again.

This is just virtue signaling. They don't want to expel Santos because they need his vote. They just want to look like they actually care about corruption in their own party. So they're doing this now, knowing full well that there's almost no chance anything actually comes out of it.

(And yes, I guarantee you it's why Schumer hasn't taken a hard line on Menendez. He needs his vote in the Senate just as badly.)

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bet Menendez is out before Santos.

Since 1789 the Senate has expelled only 15 members. Of that number, 14 were expelled during the Civil War for supporting the Confederacy.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are they sure they have power to do that to the Emperor of America?

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] bemenaker@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Can they do this without having a speaker?

Do Gaetz next.

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