Nightwingdragon

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[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 2 points 55 minutes ago

This one, I don’t think I agree that it was a fluke.

Fluke probably wasn't the right word in hindsight. He won and got re-elected decisively. Maybe they consider it a "mistake". I don't know what the right word for it is. However you want to call it, they just will not allow it to happen again.

Democrats are continuing to let the loudest crybabies take over the room. And then compromise.

That is a decades-long flaw in the Democrat party that had little bearing on this election.

Conservatives are right on one thing: the message that Kamala put out to their people was, “You don’t want to vote for a fascist.” Which doesn’t resonate with them.

Actually, many of them were on social media actively advocating for him because of the authoritarianism. They were pretty open about voting for a convict/dictator/rapist over a ~~nig..uh..blackperson..uh~~ "Democrat".

What they instead was a person who was going to keep things the same.

Here's the problem. When 51% of your voting base is giving very strong signals they don't want a minority as President and telling you they want things to remain the same, offering up a minority candidate who wants to change everything is not going to win you elections. Doesn't matter how benevolent their ideas are. The American voters just said they are willing to vote against policies they like simply because they don't like the person selling it.

In the past 3 Presidential elections, the GOP put up the literal worst candidate in history. In two of those 3 elections, the Democrats put up women. Trump won. The only time he lost was when they put up an old white guy. Then they complained about him being an old white guy. Then, rather than vote for the black woman, they voted for another old white guy. And a whole bunch of people are here saying that we would've won if we just put up an even older white guy with the same policies.

Which is basically the Democrat party as a whole saying that they may not want an old white guy as President, but they'll sure as hell put a white guy in the White House before a they put a woman there, and certainly not a black one. They tried twice, and voters stayed home. And they stayed home knowing full well what that meant. What does that tell you?

Can a minority run again? Absolutely.

Assuming we have elections again, a minority will not sit in the Oval Office in my lifetime. And if they put one up in 2028, they're going to lose just as hard. The American public -- from both parties -- have sent a loud and clear message that they will not put a woman in charge of the US, certainly not a black one. And if you think, especially after 4 more years of the Trump Hate Machine blasting propaganda 24/7, that a minority is going to have a snowball's chance in hell, I've got beachfront property on Mars you may be interested in.

But only stop catering to the status quo and bowing down to companies. Do Bernie Sanders shit.

Then wonder why you lose again. Outside of his voters and the far left, people don't want Bernie Sanders shit. We may disagree with them, but there's more of them then there are of us.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 23 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (4 children)

I just want to say this to all the people who are making up the most hare-brained excuses for why Harris lost.

Kamala Harris cobbled together a campaign in days that took a campaign that was going R+5 and counting and turned it into a toss-up. She had 107 days. From day one, she was held to an infinitely higher standard than Trump. Trump held a debate where he famously said "They're eating the dogs!" and "I have concepts of a plan!.", and Americans were just fine with it. But Harris wasn't perfectly articulate with details over some economic plan or another and apparently this makes her unfit for President. She put up a near-flawless campaign, especially given how stuck behind the 8-ball she was. It ultimately just didn't matter.

Arab-Americans were outraged over Harris' support for Israel because of the genocide in Gaza. So to protest this, they voted for a man who has vowed even more support for israel and to genocide even harder, and also try to kick them out of the country in the process.

Latino men opted to vote for a man who made it a focal point of his campaign to round up and deport Latinos en-masse because the alternative was voting for a former prosecutor who also happens to be a woman.

White people decided that they want someone who's going to fix the economy, so they decided to vote for a guy who campaigned on raising the cost of living by an average of about $400 a month while promising to appoint a budget czar who already said he actively plans on imposing "hardships" on poor people.

Well, it's either that, or tens of millions of people in a country with a long-established history of racism and misogyny refused to vote for a black female president and just used these niche issues as excuses.

I know a lot of people don't want to hear this, and I know what I'm about to say sounds racist as hell. But Obama was a fluke and America in general is just not willing to elect a minority again. That's just all there is to it. The rise of Trump, the rise of far-right groups like the Proud Boys, and the 2024 election are proof of that. Democrat initiatives did relatively fine. The senate went GOP, but that was predicted with the loss of Manchin and Tester. Democrats in the House did fine. Kamala Harris did not.

And for those who believed that embracing centrist policies is what cost us the election, or we weren't left enough, or we should have listened to people like Bernie and AOC: People like Bernie and AOC are wildly popular in their districts and with the far-left coalition of the voting base. But they are wildly unpopular outside of that. And keep in mind......I love both of them and would gladly vote for a future AOC as president. But given the current political makeup of the country, putting someone like Bernie or AOC on the ballot would have made the ass kicking Harris just got seem tame. Sure, they'd have won states like California and Massachusetts by gigantic margins. But they'd do little to nothing to flip red or purple states.

The fact of the matter is that the 2024 results prove that Americans like what the Democrats were selling. They just don't want her to be the one selling it, as evidenced by the fact that only she underperformed so spectacularly. People were so unwilling to vote for a black, female President that over 10 million of them opted to stay home knowing full well that they were essentially voting for Trump.

A majority of this country is white. A majority of this country will not vote for a minority president again in this political climate. And if the Democrats put up another minority candidate in 2028 (assuming we even have elections), they will lose again. That's just all there is to it. It's a tough pill to swallow, but it's the truth. It's not right, but it's the truth. You know how black people across the south have been fighting gerrymandering so they can have majority-black districts and vote for black candidates? Or for that matter, how minority candidates do better in minority districts when championing minority initiatives? White people are doing the same thing. And there's a lot more of them. And they just proved that they absolutely will vote against their best interests vs. voting for a black woman.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Give it 6 months before someone is arguing before the Supreme Court that "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" is an absolute statement and any gun control legislation is unconstitutional.

And the Supreme Court will buy it.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 39 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Great. We're barely 4 days out and we've got this guy out there threatening to start WW3 over Twitter.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 48 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Because that'll work in a Republican controlled House and Senate. I'm sure they'll get right on drawing up articles of impeachment.

Oh, I'm not saying it would be a good idea by any stretch of the imagination. Secessions would be the least we'd have to worry about.

I'm just saying that in a world where Trump has seriously and repeatedly suggested it, his voting base has actively said they're OK with it, and all 3 branches are firmly and securely in his pocket, Trump going so far as to actually suspending the Constitution is a very, very real possibility. Especially if he's being advised by an administration stacked from top to bottom with Trump yes-men and crazies that make Qanon conspiracy theorists seem sane.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 83 points 1 day ago (14 children)

No they won't.

Trump just said that he's going to impose tariffs that are going to increase the cost of living by about $400 a month per family. Elon Musk just said he plans on imposing "hardship" on the country for a few years. And Americans voted ovewhelmingly in favor of that. The economy will tank, yes. But they'll just blame Democrats and the voters will eat it up.

Don't believe me? gestures at Tuesday.

That's assuming we have another election at all. Trump -- A man, remember, that has repeatedly said that terminating the Constitution was on the table -- now has the White House, both branches of government, a supreme court largely appointed by him, and several state governments. Moderate republicans have been successfully rooted out or marginalized. Trump could very well follow through on that promise, backdropped by the thunderous applause of the other two branches of government.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 140 points 1 day ago (9 children)

No, the narrative just changed. Good luck convincing anyone the 2020 election wasn't stolen ever again.

"I told you. In 2020 we won all 50 states. Voter fraud by the millions. I was saying it all along. But we worked hard, we passed laws for election integrity, we watched the polls and they couldn't cram their 10, 15 million votes into the boxes again. And look what happened. Instead of winning by 8 million votes, she lost by 6 million votes. Which is what should have happened last time."

This is the narrative I've been hearing. The voters that just stayed home simply never existed in the first place, as far as they're concerned. He's going to use this victory as proof of his claim that he should have won last time, voter fraud was rampant, and Democrats are cheaters. And it's going to work.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 64 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For those who are saying "Trump can't do this or can't do that...."

Yes. Yes he fucking can.

The American people just voted, in a landslide, in favor of Trump's agenda. And they voted to send more MAGA people to Congress to help him. They have full control of all 3 branches of government now, with comfortable majorities.

The Supreme Court just said Trump is immune from prosecution for official acts, which they define as "whatever Trump says they are, unless we say otherwise."

There are no more "moderate" Republicans. Anyone who is not fully on board the Trump train has been weeded out. They are there to rubber stamp Project 2025. And there's not a single one left who would dare to speak, let alone vote, against him.

This is a "Do what I want and get away with it" administration. Trump will do what he wants. And if it's not legal, Congress is there to make it legal. And if it's unconstitutional, the Supreme Court is there to make it Constitutional.

Understand this. There are no guardrails any more. They've all been removed. And rather than defend Democracy, the American people just handed them the tools to do it. Trump can do what he wants, will do what he wants, and he'll do it to the thunderous applause of the American public.

Authoritarianism is here. It's covered in spray-tan. And it's going to be sworn in in January.

Remember, Arab-Americans. You refused to vote for Harris because of Gaza. When Israel ratchets up the genocide with Trump's blessing, remember that you voted for this.

Remember, Latino men who wouldn't vote for Harris because she's a woman. When you get caught up in the mass deportations or half of your friends get sent back to their home countries, remember that you voted for this.

Same with the white guys. When you lose that cushy federal job because your answers on a random questionnaire weren't MAGA enough, remember that you voted for this.

When it's your daughters bleeding out in a parking lot because of a national abortion ban, remember that you voted for this.

You think you're strapped for cash now? Trump's new tariffs are going to cost you on average about $400 a month. You won't get anything out of it. You'll just be spending $400 a month on literally nothing because the guy you voted for doesn't understand how tariffs work. And that doesn't even count price hikes from the ripple effects of the tariffs and what it will do to the entire supply chain. Hope you've got a plan, because again.......you fucking voted for this.

And this doesn't even take into account the fact that Republicans just got finished admitting that they were lying about Project 2025 all along. They know how unpopular it is. They know people see it as a power grab. THEY OPENLY ADMITTED FUCKING LYING TO YOU TO GET THEIR AGENDA PASSED. JD VANCE OPENLY ADMITTED LYING TO VOTERS IN ORDER TO SHAPE THE NARRATIVE. AND YOU STILL VOTED FOR THEM. And they couldn't even wait 24 hours before taking the masks off and laughing directly in your face. Project 2025 is what we do know about. I'm fearful of what else they've been withholding that they plan on doing.

Y'all are about to find out that the most expensive trip in your lives is going to prove to be the trip to the voting booth that you didn't take. We'll all be paying for that for decades to come.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You hear about those stories where the white cop pulls over the black guy. And then of course he smells weed because of course he does. And then the black guy steps out of the car, and then a bunch of stuff happens, and the guy is somehow in the back of the cruiser and only semi conscious?

In Trumpworld, that's what is going to be considered "the good ending".

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Harris: "I support Israel."

Arab-Americans: "We cannot support you because you support genocide."

Trump: "I'll genocide harder. And I'll throw your asses out of here while I'm at it!"

Arab-Americans: "That's our guy!"

Good job, guys. Let me know how that works out for you.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago (11 children)

Everybody is warning us of the impact of the election. They've been warning us for years.

The problem is that Americans stood up and either said "We know. We just don't care.", or "We know. We want it that way."

 
 

Says the man who is the 2nd man on the ticket of the man borrowing Epsdein's plane.

Somebody, please, make it make sense......

 
 

As expected, Cannon is giving Trump what he wants.

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