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If I buy the best that either company has to offer (Pixel 8 pro or S23 Ultra)

Which one, in your opinion, would be the best Android experience and why? Would love to know your thoughts.

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[–] JdW@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Pixel is the far superior product as far as I am concerned: Faster, more stable, no bloatware and the best camera around.

But, and this might be a big but for some, if you need repairs or service outside of insurance you are SOL. There's not a lot of companies doing Pixel repairs and if they do the parts are insanely expensive. I needed a screen replace and it cost almost as much as the phone itself in parts and labour. And the end result is a screen that gets dirtier and a non-functioning fingerprint sensor. Not optimal.

Awesome phone, but pray you do not need service.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've had so many problems with pixels it's not even funny. Never had an issue with Samsung. I think Google makes poor quality devices.

Ah, also as a professional photographer I can promise you the cameras are better on Samsung devices.

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[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Also, battery life on the 7 series is pretty bad. My old 3a had awesome battery life, but since then Google started making their own SoC. They still use some third-party chips which they don't control, and it's affecting power efficiency. I've heard rumors that they're expected to have better control of power consumption around the 9 series.

All that being said, I love my Pixel 7a, but I frequently have to top it off to last me a full day. I can handle that, but if you don't have access to a charger during the day I'd consider other options.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

Never buy Samsung, full of proprietary trash bloat, and they crack down on people trying to get root access. Absolute no-go.

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[–] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pixel 8. No bloatware (except the Google bloat of course, but you can get rid of this easily), plus Google has now promised 7 years of updates - which is more than the iPhone. This would increase the resale value of the phone, and even if you don't want to sell it, you could always give it to a family member or something after say 3-4 years of use, and they'd still get many years of official updates remaining. This is great for reducing e-waste whilst still maintaining a good security posture.

And if you're privacy conscious, you could ditch the Google ecosystem completely and load GrapheneOS on it, and GrapheneOS is simple amazing in terms of privacy and security, and arguably has better battery life too (thanks to no Google bloatware running on it).

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah Pixel for similar reasons. Even when I paid for an expensive Samsung phone all the unremovable crap they'd loaded on made it feel like I was the product rather than the customer.

Have they fixed the 5G modem, fingerprint sensor, and overheating issues than the entire Pixel 6 and 7 lineups had?

[–] space@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If you care about your privacy, and you should, get a pixel and install GrapheneOS.

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[–] Someology@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If you like lots of customization options out of the box, then Samsung. If you like using a pen to write (or convert handwriting to text) or draw, then Samsung. If you want barebones Google and don't want extra features or customizations, then Pixel. It depends what you like.

You should try both in person before deciding.

[–] 0x2d@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pixel will have longer term support because of wide varieties of custom roms

[–] Someology@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a good point, as long as people make sure to buy versions with unlocked bootloaders.

[–] 0x2d@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Mine has an unlocked bootloader. I got it at Best buy unlocked

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You're mostly right, but I'm told that Pixels have features that no other Android phones have. So, in a way, Pixels also have "extra features."

Plus for some people, "barebones" here is actually a good thing.

[–] Pulptastic@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a pixel 6 personal phone and a Samsung s21fe work phone and the software on the Samsung is garbage. Bloatware you can't uninstall, weird default settings, "features" nobody wanted that I can't disable, and more bloatware.

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[–] Alicecisnt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I have an S23 Ultra and it is a nice phone but I wouldn't recommend Samsung to anyone because my last several Samsungs "mysteriously" got issues right before the 2 year plan ended. I won't be getting another Samsung after this one. I really wanted the pen and it is great but I'm starting to care more about longevity.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago
[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Oh, almost forgot, for those interested in giving buying advice, please check out our very own buying guide that we are making in the sticky post and contribute your input. Thanks.

[–] Trollivier@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've had my Pixel 4a for 3 years and it's still top notch. I'm quite satisfied with it.

[–] drgnfckr@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Same, it will be a sad day when it dies.

[–] G020B@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

Pixel 7 works perfectly for me. I like nearly all aspects of it. The camera is extremely good (I've recently made a comparison with iPhone 14 Pro Max and iPhone was far worse) and reliable. The battery life and performance is good. The phone feels smooth, without a lot of bugs. I don't have a recent experience with Samsung, but I will stick with Pixel going forward.

[–] stewie410@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've just recently switched from a Galaxy S10 to a Pixel 7 as I wanted to see the "vanilla" experience, as well as be closer to upstream for software updates. My S10 still works great, though the battery needs replacement (at the time, it had already broken the glue on the back glass and was still expanding -- didn't realize until I took it out of the case for cleaning)...

With my S10, I had to really fight to get it to let me use Google's apps over the Samsung ones; which whole annoying is doable. So far, the only things I really miss from Samsung (and notably the UX):

  • The sidebar/panel with an additional set of predefined apps
  • The volume/silent switch in the notification shade
  • The Bixby button (for custom actions)
  • Physically smaller phone, but that's not a huge deal

Overall, I'm happy with the experience so far; though I dunno if the "Pro" model of anything is really worth it.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Am not really sure what you mean by "had to really fight to get it to let me use Google's apps"? I've been a Samsung user for years and I have never even once ran into situation where wrong application would start. Not only that, I started using Samsung's Email application last year because GMail stopped downloading attachments, a known issue they never fixed.

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[–] netchami@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Get a Pixel, install GrapheneOS.

[–] mihies@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Do apps requiring locked phones (Netflix, baking etc.) work?

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[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pixels historically have a lot of weird hardware issues, like the modem underperforming, bad antennas, poor fingerprint sensor, overheating, and so on.

I don't know if the Pixel 8 lineup has them too, but I would search around pretty heavily on that and see first.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

The Pixel is like any other Google product, half-assed and supported only when they feel like it. My Pixel 6 was vulnerable to an attack needing no user input because Google waited a week past the disclosure deadline to put a patch out from a vulnerability their own security group originally found. The phone also maybe couldn’t have called 911 for a few weeks. The phone looking dated and having a slow as hell finger print sensor are on me, but the former are Google being shitty.

[–] Viket@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I love my Pixel and would always choose it over Samsung, but yuuuup. Lot's of wierd Software issues too.

Can't forget the time when they shipped a PIN recovery mode that allows you to enter the PUK for whatever SIM card is inserted ... while also allowing you to hot swap sim cards. 😂

[–] Ringo13@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

Can't speak on the Pixel (I've heard great things), but I have an S23+ and it works pretty great for me. I don't play a lot of games or anything if that's what you're looking for though

[–] jaam01@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

If you are able to get the the Pixel with a deal, go for it. Pixels don't retain much resale value, like Samsungs. For example, the Pixel 6a launched at 450, now it's in the Google Store at 250.

[–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

pixel for grapheneos

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Samsung hardware is a lot higher quality, but the Pixel is cheaper. I've had to return a pixel to Google 5 times before so I don't buy those any longer for myself.

[–] Flipflap@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Pixel 8 pro ! You will have stock Android, providing a better experience. Moreover it's less expensive! I love Pixel phones. I recently got the Pixel tablet.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Either.

Both are programmed to harvest every single bit of information you input into it, including access other devices on your network if you use wifi.

Buy the one with the nicest camera I guess.

If you care about privacy, get a Pine phone.

[–] Samuql@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pixel with Graphene OS seems to be a good choice tbh.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Are the camera features still accessible? Or is it a downgrade on available hardware and software in exchange for privacy?

[–] archiotterpup@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I love my pixel. It consistently has the best camera in the US smartphone market.

[–] joemo@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

You probably can't go wrong with either one.

I've been using Pixels for a while and have been happy with them. Tried some of the other phones and didn't like the UX. Most of them have a ton of bloatware. I have enjoyed the stock android experience and the camera.

I think the Pixel 8 Pro has a slight price increase, so you're starting to get up there in price. If possible, I recommend going into a store and using the phones and such.

I went from pixel 5 to Samsung s23.

The hardware of Samsung feels really solid. It's definitely more customisable. The pixel though just has everything already built in. It was a joy to use. Plus the camera is just so reliable. Far better than the base s23.

The Samsung isn't quite bad enough that I want to sell it and get another pixel when it comes out, but I'm definitely not sticking with Samsung in however many years time when I do replace it.

[–] nelov@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All the nerds like to recommend the Pixel since it's "pure" and a device for tinkering. But ignore the fact that all google products are unfinished, and this is true for the pixel line. If you are OK with beta testing for google and doing workarounds for bugs, then this is fine. But not everyone has time and nerves for that.

Yeah, samsung has bloat(most can be removed, disabled etc.) but I've never had OS bugs like when I had a Nexus or a Pixel.

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Samsung interface is much better than the standard Android interface offered by Google.

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