What to use instead of gmail? : opensource

[–] fragrantvegetable@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 hour ago

I'm using Infomaniak Mail and am fairly happy so far. They are based in Switzerland and I get custom domain + 5 user accounts for 1.50 EUR/month. I've tried other providers but coming from Gmail I like that their webmail displays email conversation like Google does whereas most other providers just run rainloop or roundcube where threading support isn't quite the same.

Their android app is open source too and can be installed from fdroid. It can be a bit sluggish sometimes though, but K9mail/Thunderbird works fine too.

[–] hanabatake@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 hour ago

This dude compare quite a lot of email providers in term of privacy. I do not necessarily agree with all its critics but it is a useful resource:

https://digdeeper.neocities.org/articles/email

I would recommend to buy your own domain in case you need to change again. That way, you're not trapped by your email provider and you can change in case you're not satisfied anymore

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Murena mail, Nextcloud mail, Tuta, Proton, aything is better as GMail, only Hotmail is worse.

[–] rippermonty 1 points 1 hour ago

So it's not hot anymore

[–] hamburger@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 7 hours ago

Mailbox.org

[–] fosterj@lemmyusa.com 2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

What are people’s thoughts on using Apple email? I was thinking of switching from Gmail.

[–] nicerdicer@feddit.org 1 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Do you mean iCloud Mail? I assume it is as secure as all the other iCloud services themselves. Personally, I don't use iCloud (except for the "Find my" feature). But you can set up any third party Email service with the Apple's Mail app. I use Mailbox.org as email provider and have it set up with the Mail app on my iPhone. It works flawlessly. Third party email providers often come with additional costs (the lowest tier with Mailbox.org was 12 € each year when I switched from a freemail provider a couple of years ago). I don't know if iCloud Mail is free of charge, other than additional storage space.

[–] fosterj@lemmyusa.com 1 points 51 minutes ago (1 children)

Yes an iCloud email. I have an iCloud subscription already and I also use the Hidr my Email feature a lot. But everything right now is forwarded to Gmail.

So I’d like to just switch completely over to iCloud, maybe even have a hide my email for every account I have. I feel like Apple is one of the safer ones to go with because as far as I know (maybe I’m wrong) they aren’t in the business of selling user data.

I want private and safe, but also simple and easy. I wonder if Apple is a good balance here.

[–] nicerdicer@feddit.org 1 points 5 minutes ago

Apples eco system does have pretty good safety features. As far as I have heard, Apple is indeed not up to sell user data outside their eco system. However, they collect data from their users and use it for their own purposes. It is always a good advice to go through each setting (of phone as well as laptop) and evaluate if it is needed for functionality (e.g. location services or access for the camera or contacts). Not only will this measurement reduce the amount of (usually) unneccessary data that is being transmitted otherwise, but it will also improve battery life as well.

[–] akalanka@masto.es 1 points 7 hours ago

@nicerdicer exactly, the only real #privacy gains with web-based providers is if you trust them, or if you personally encrypt all data locally and use PGP

I suggested #tutanota and #proton, because they do all the local encryption stuff for you, so, technically, they are a bit more private than the others, although you still kinda have to trust their web (or use their open-source apps only)

[–] thoughtcrime@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

Do you mean an @icloud.com address?

[–] fosterj@lemmyusa.com 1 points 52 minutes ago

Yes an iCloud email. I have an iCloud subscription already and I also use the Hidr my Email feature a lot. But everything right now is forwarded to Gmail.

So I’d like to just switch completely over to iCloud, maybe even have a hide my email for every account I have. I feel like Apple is one of the safer ones to go with because as far as I know (maybe I’m wrong) they aren’t in the business of selling user data.

I want private and safe, but also simple and easy. I wonder if Apple is a good balance here.

[–] akalanka@masto.es 2 points 7 hours ago

@thoughtcrime I don't think that provides much more privacy per-se, at least when compared to GMail. I would try @Tutanota or @protonprivacy , although the latter have had some PR drama recently

[–] yozul@beehaw.org 6 points 10 hours ago

I've been using mailbox.org, and it's pretty great. It's cheap, it's private, and it works well.

I like the idea of e2ee email, but the way they all work it's pretty much a completely useless feature for most people, myself included, and I also like using Thunderbird. It's just not worth the trade off for something I'd basically never get any use out of anyway.

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 3 points 9 hours ago

Get a domain and set up a provider with custom domains such as Purelymail

[–] RayOfSunlight@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

I personally use Disroot along with Thunderbird 😁

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

Posteo + Addy.io + Thunderbird

[–] sunstoned@lemmus.org 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Another one for Tuta, with addy.io as a proxy service. Nice integration with Bitwarden for making new accounts + it's simple to make rules based on the to address for easy filtering.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 3 points 10 hours ago

I've been meaning to check out Addy.io for a while now, because you're not the first person I've seen mentioning it in threads like this. Your comment was the straw that broke the camel's back and I've finally gone and checked it out. Thanks for including a link in your comment; it helped reduce the activation energy of setting it up

[–] Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 20 hours ago

tuta

[–] tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net 18 points 23 hours ago (7 children)

Just leaving my vote for fastmail. They are wicked.

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[–] LemoineFairclough@sh.itjust.works 4 points 17 hours ago

https://www.privacyguides.org/en/email/

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[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 13 points 22 hours ago

Perhaps an indirect answer, but I'm using a duck.com forwarder whenever i need to give any address, these days. On top of tracker filtering and random alias generator, once i change addresses I'll only have to update the forwarders destination.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I've been using Tuta for damn near a decade, and it's been great for me.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I just got an account and had no idea it's that old

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 17 hours ago

Existed since 2011

[–] HorikBrun@kbin.earth 80 points 1 day ago (10 children)

A couple months ago, I would have said Proton. But....

Here we are.

[–] jesse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 minutes ago

I was looking at moving to Proton as this all went down. Those plans are on hold.

After reading through it, I am having trouble figuring out how to read his comments because I wonder if there is some different cultural references or simplification going on between the Swis exec and American readers.

It was absolutely a stupid comment and was then the response was handed badly, but I don't know that I read it as aligning with Fascism.

This is the best writeup I can find: https://archive.ph/2025.01.29-213655/https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

[–] en1gma@lemmy.ml 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

What’s up with Proton?

I never trusted them 100% so I never paid for their services and didn’t really follow up with their privacy and stuff. Just used their free services from time to time.

[–] __nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

In bed with fascists

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[–] ray@lemmy.ml 11 points 23 hours ago

If you really wanna get started with your own domain I highly recommend just getting https://purelymail.com/ setup for the hosting provider. It's going to be way cheaper than just about anything and you pay for what you use. I've been on it for a few years and never had a problem.

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