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[–] socialmedia@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

The Gaza strip is 141 square miles with a 2024 estimate of over two million people. I guarantee Trump doesn't know how big it is, or the logistics required to displace that many people.

Not that he would care, but his followers need to be aware that this isn't a small city or a united group of people. You can't just send out an email and "tell" them anything. Especially after their communication infrastructure has been destroyed. So him saying they need to get out before his visit is no different than me saying he needs to resign by tomorrow.

Everyone who supports this needs to be aware that its a genocide. Supporting it is equivalent to volunteering to be part of it.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (4 children)

@givesomefucks@lemmy.world did biden/harris advocate for palestinians to leave gaza

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I hate how horribly accurate that meme is.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Protest voters did not meaningfully impact the election

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Trump won with 1% of the vote.
35% of registered, eligible voters stayed home. If 1% of those that stayed home would have voted we would be in a different world right now.
Protest voters are absolutely to blame for this.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -1 points 15 hours ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College

Its not as simple as you'd like it to be.

I really thought everyone would have learned about the electoral college by now, but the important thing is making sure people understand our system moving forward.

Every single nonvoter in Cali could have held their nose and voted D, it wouldn't have changed the result at all

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

If you actually want to look at the numbers of who stayed home in 2024 after voting in 2020 then those demographics were the older white men/women and hispanic men. Probably because both those groups have a harder time stomaching a woman with the exact same policies

The people protesting the Zionists' war were college students and under 30s, who voted the exact same they always do.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Non-voters sure as shit did impact the election.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -2 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Cool less than half the voting age population votes in the US.

And it has always been like this

So whining about the people who never vote and will never vote isn't helpful

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

This election was an existential threat to democracy. Anyone who was able to vote and didn't vote for Harris, the opposition candidate, is to blame. The Democrats who stayed home because of fucking Gaza even moreso. We Harris voters knew this shit would happen because we pay attention. Anyone who voted for trump to send a message needs to do the same. There was 0 chance a trump presidency would turn out well for the Palestinians in Gaza.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Keep telling yourself that I'm sure it will make things turn out different next time.

Meanwhile I've been waiting for young people to actually vote since I was 18.

Waiting on poor people to vote in their own self interests.

Still waiting.

Meanwhile you're being tricked by propaganda into hating poor and young people.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

"Genocide can't get worse"

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"Both sides are bad, so I refuse to vote for either"

"Democrats need to earn my vote"

"Well, yeah, Trump is definitely bad. I don't want Trump. But I demand a pony and a blowjob. If the Democrats want my vote, they're going to have to do more than just stop Trump from killing all the ponies. "

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Specifically:

There is no "more fucked" than genocide.

https://lemmus.org/comment/8655262

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago

There are degrees of genocide, as you can see very plainly by just reading the news.

[–] lemmy_user_838586@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You should be calling return2ozma and TokenBoomer too. The 'I'm not voting for Trump's opponent, but I'm gonna complain about the consequences', crowd.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

theres a lot of shills

[–] FiremanEdsRevenge@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dude singlehandedly saved Gaza.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world -1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm sure the 100k people who use Lemmy swayed the millions of voters the Dems needed to defeat fascism... for another 4 years... until the next manufactured choice between "corporate whore lite" and "yet another fascist".

[–] FiremanEdsRevenge@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

Congrats on saving Gaza.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

member Paula White ... Trump's spiritual advisor. White claimed that Trump "will play a critical role in Armageddon as the United States stands alongside Israel in the battle against Islam."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Mountain_Mandate

[–] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yea, cause he's pretty much the antichrist. I mean, it's the closest evidence I've even been presented with for anything in the Bible being real.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 hours ago

Even if it isn't, they believe, and they are trying to force it to happen.

[–] RandAlThor@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Man all those Arab Americans who voted for their orange god. Their god is cruel. Leopards ate their faces.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

You're as happy about genocide now as you have been for the past year.

But now you get to openly hate Arab Americans instead of pretending you don't.

EDIT: If you want to talk, do so in public.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 0 points 21 hours ago

A small majority of Arab-Americans are Christians, mainly descended from Lebanese Maronites and members of Syrian Christian minorities like the Nestorians. There are also a few Copts. Some are descendants of immigrants from as far back as the 1920s. Many of those groups barely identify as Arabs, many have some very real grievances against Muslims, and generally aren't interested in the Palestinians (not even the Orthodox Christian Palestinians). And even among Muslim Arab-Americans, there is very little solidarity. The religious conservatives despise the Democrats for supporting women's and LGBTQ+ rights.

It's also worth noting that the majority of Palestinian-American groups endorsed the Democrats as the less-bad alternative.