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[–] teri@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 24 minutes ago (1 children)

I support the cause in general but: Signal is not federated at all. It may seem like a decent alternative to WhatsApp but is it really? It still falls under the same US jurisdiction. Let's say the US gov starts agressively prosecuting dissidents and certain minorities (they already do): can and should we still use signal in this case? I don't think so. Sadly i can't name a much better alternative. Maybe matrix. But it has other issues.

[–] teri@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 21 minutes ago

We should stop being naive. Immersing ourselves as a society into facebook and twitter significantly contributed to the shit situation we are in now. Going to Signal seems like a short term solution. We should have some idea where to go on the long term.

[–] csm10495@sh.itjust.works 26 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

How is signal considered part of the fediverse?

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 4 points 3 hours ago

My first thought too.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 6 points 6 hours ago (6 children)

Are any of these actually good?

I mean, aside from Lemmy. I tried Mastadon and no one was actually on it, seems like everyone is jumping to Bluesky.

[–] lysol@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

Depends on how many you follow. Lemmy is way more dead than Mastodon for me.

[–] Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz 8 points 5 hours ago

I can vouch for Matrix unfortunately it is not listed and instead they mentioned Signal which is further from the fediverse.

[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 11 points 5 hours ago

I can vouch for Signal. I got my whole family out of facebook messenger to make a new place for family chat. Even my parents in their mid 60s had no problem changing.

[–] teohhanhui@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

no one was actually on it

It might feel that way at first, but my Mastodon feed is very robust nowadays. You just need to follow more people.

[–] Temperche@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

People only move to Bluesky because they don't want to change their thinking (picking instances is hard!) and keep using "Twitter".

[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I can understand it. I was banned without reason from 3 of the top mastodon instances before even posting anything. Creating new accounts is a hassle, and it's easy to lose faith in the system when bans happen without reason and none of the instances cared to respond to my appeals. In heinsight, I'm sure the ban was due to my username looking like a hash, but I still find it crazy that the appeals were ignored.

[–] all4one@lemmy.zip 1 points 49 minutes ago

Dqw4, I'll never forget that link.

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

I've seen some authors I like on Mastodon, like William Gibson. It's a quieter place but I like that about it, as someone who never used Twitter.

[–] Winterfrost@lemm.ee 4 points 6 hours ago

Fediverse is awesome!!

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 20 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

instead of switching ive mostly just been ditching entirely. I need less time interacting with internet people.

literally the only thing on this list im still using is facebook messenger, for my work colleagues. and youtube. everything else ive migrated (reddit-lemmy), or abandoned and torched

[–] 8fingerlouie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

It’s funny how things work out.

I’ve spent years checking social media multiple times per day, and due to current (and not so current) events, I initially just deleted twitter. I tried mastodon, but it was a complete echo chamber. Twitter on the other hand was 25% bots and 50% porn, so I just deleted it. Turns out I didn’t miss it.

I recently did the same with Instagram, Facebook, TikTok and Snapchat. Guess what, not missing those either.

Facebook messenger is tough to get rid of though. I have kids that attend after school activities, and there aren’t really any easy fixes. I doubt I can successfully persuade 100+ people to migrate to signal just because of my political crusade.

It’s not being helped by the fact that ~75% of the people here use iPhones, so most communication not going through messenger goes through iMessage. Last I checked I knew a total of 4 people on signal, despite having 50+ people i regularly communicate with over messenger or iMessage.

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Only ones I use are YouTube and fb marketplace because Craigslist is totally dead here, but it's from an alt account I've never used for anything at all.

[–] Temperche@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 hours ago

I will definitely check that out and try to use it before checking marketplace, but I honestly can't imagine I'll find anyone selling anything near me. I'm fairly rural, and even the nearest "city" isn't exactly a thriving metropolis.

[–] RedSnt@feddit.dk 19 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I was already on Mastodon by just having a Vivaldi (the chromium browser) account, and it's just lovely I've spent most of the day setting up lemmy, even though I joined feddit.dk 2 years ago, it's only just now I'm taking it seriously.
And, while not related to the fediverse per se, I switched to linux a year ago.
The only service that's hard to drop/switch away from is Youtube imo.

[–] 8fingerlouie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I’m having more trouble dropping Facebook messenger.

Pretty much everything “real life social” is organized through that. While I haven’t posted anything on Facebook for years, news from my local community, kids after school activities, birthday parties, etc are all organized through that.

[–] breadcat@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 hours ago (7 children)

I keep seeing this type stuff but neither peertube or friendica are genuine replacements at this point, mastodon is weaksauce compared to akkoma or a misskey fork, and loops is alpha software. also yes signal is centralized but it just works and has contact discovery so it owns matrix and xmpp when compared to whatsapp. basically none of this stuff is truly ready

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