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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

American here:

I would like for the civilized world to do a full trade embargo on the US. I want the economy to nosedive so hard that either the GOP votes to remove the motherfucker from office, or get crushed in the biggest electoral landslide in history in 2026.

[–] FarraigePlaisteach@lemmy.world 4 points 53 minutes ago

That is probably the most effective thing that could happen. But if they won't do it to Israel for committing genocide then I doubt they'd do it for it's political doppelgänger.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The world has that option. Come to think of it, it's pretty pitiful they haven't the humanity to stand up to this monster looming across the sea.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 3 points 53 minutes ago

I'm almost as disappointed in the rest of the world not standing up to the USA as I am disappointed in my fellow citizens' abdication of social and civic responsibility, common decency, and basic humanity.

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Think the only ways to stop this is passing a bill prohibiting using money on GITMO like the Republicans did with the prohibition of spending money to close GITMO.

Or lawsuits.

Or the people take a stand.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

You caught me, I am a Fat Balding Italian. At least partially Italian.

[–] Hossenfeffer 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I'm not Italian, but I am a Fat Balding Idiot so we're all good.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I'm not Italian or Balding, but I'm super fat.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Maybe we can start by looking at all the corporations who are most supporting him, and push hard for boycotts. It might be slightly indirect, but corporate partners do seem to have the most influence on policy decisions. Maybe we could make a document in the style of the PrivacyGuides project to help people choose alternatives to fascist supporters.

I've seen posts on Mastodon calling for the general strike as well.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

General strike is the way to go. It's like peaceful protesting but it's devastating to the thing they care about most. Older gen are mostly trumpets so they also get hit when their generational wealth drys up and they get to be the ones worrying about making rent.

I've been saying it but most people are hard programed not to question anything and never stick their neck out. I would have hoped concentration camps would be a line in the sand but just look, all over the this post people are obsfucating who is responsible. They think it's important to assign blame to democrats, an almost irrelevant factor, after they proved they can no longer win elections at a national level.

Anyway, I'll be there with you when the strike hits. By that I mean the strike of the billy club as they throw me in a patty wagon for dissent.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

I dunno what I can do besides get out of the US or sewer slide.

[–] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

No one is doing anything, because we all decided when facists win legally, we must play by their rules of must not do anything about it.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

No one is doing anything

Plenty of not-terminally-online people are organizing to resist mass arrests and deportations. Reach out to your local DSA. My Houston chapter's been great about pulling together legal resources, just for starters.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

We could all decide otherwise. That would mean ignoring nay sayers and aligning yourself with only people who share your values.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I dunno, what's your plan?

[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 13 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Go to the Winchester, grab a nice cold pint and wait for this all to blow over.

[–] Hossenfeffer 2 points 1 hour ago

Okay. But dogs CAN look up!

[–] DigitalNirvana@lemm.ee 2 points 2 hours ago

I’ll meet ya there in a bit.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Write lots of scathing comments online

[–] zlatiah@lemmy.world 25 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Yes, I already did, even before this particular news broke out...

I tried to individually tell every one I know IRL (which is not too many ppl sadly), basically told every single one of them to consider back-up career options... There are a couple of 1-year exchange students from Europe in my floor and I have not-subtly hinted at them to make contingency plans for PhD training back home. I've been following the news very carefully recently so I can share relevant items as soon as possible... The people need to know. I've even considered making know-your-rights printouts before they claimed they're doing an ICE raid in Chicago, but realized how little resources I have for that... I absolutely will do something. Not sure what it is but I can't see society go this way.

I just feel bad that as a non-US citizen there is only so little I can do... I don't even know if I could join a protest without being considered for deportation at this rate. Am planning my leave as well so there's that.

Funny incident, I blurted out to my family 2-months ago that Trump will probably build a concentration camp and was told to shut the F up... Murphy's law I suppose

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 18 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I dunno man....are you? I can't afford to go to prison. I have three kids that rely on me for sustenance and a house. Nothing that Trump administration does is going to make life more difficult for me currently. I'm emailing politicians, trying to make good points online, and protest. I think that's all I can do right now. Now, if my family is threatened, or I can no longer provide for my family, then we'll talk again.

[–] Blackmist 37 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

I think we're starting to see in real time why nobody stopped Hitler either.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 hour ago

Joining an armed resistance has a high chance of death. Turns out a lot of people like being alive. I can see why other countries saw a bit more resistance too, when your country voted for it there is probably an impression many support it

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The people in power that are supposed to stop this aren't. AOC is trying to rally people, but not sure how effective it's going to be yet.

Anything you do as an individual is likely to fail and only make things way, way worse. So you tell me man....what should I do that I'm not already doing?

[–] Blackmist 2 points 3 hours ago

Nothing. It ain't on us to fix shit. Our side of things has been broken since before any of us were born.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 10 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

And the US is about 28 times larger than Germany, making it even harder for people to travel to a focal point of power to resist.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Nothing that Trump administration does is going to make life more difficult for me currently.

Woof. I remember saying that back in 2017. Four years later...

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 35 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Did we stop them from building the internment camps at the border in his last term?

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 24 points 7 hours ago (8 children)

Did we stop the Biden administration from using them once Trump built them? No, no we did not.

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Okay now that we agree concentration camps bad, what is your opionion on trump making new ones?

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

Also bad I expect these to rapidly go from detention camps to work camps.

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[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 20 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone who was supposed to prevent this and had the power to do so either tried and failed or didn't bother.

Right now the objective is "Survive", the bad guys have already won.

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[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

A consideration to the ending of slavery in the United States was the advent of photography. Film was used to share the horror of the Nazi concentration camps in WW2 because they knew there would be people who deny history. Israel denied access and targeted journalists in Gaza for over a year for a reason.

Public perception sways from indifference to protests when they can't look away from the destructive results. It's the whole reason black sites like Guantanamo Bay exist in the first place and were used to hold extradited citizens without due process for years, they want to pretend the Constitution doesn't exist and they haven't sworn oaths to it and will do everything they can to hide their crimes.

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[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 14 points 7 hours ago

We have had one there for 25 years now.

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