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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

And they’re not even trying to create American jobs with this crap. The CHIPS Act is paired with a “chipmaker’s visa,” which intends to import cheap labor from Taiwan to work the US chip factories.

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

thats one way to make sure openai can stay competitive

[–] magnus919@lemmy.brandyapple.com 8 points 1 day ago (7 children)

As someone who actually approves $$ for tech vendors in an American company, I can tell you that no matter how cheaply China-based services become, they still aren't going to be seriously considered. Anthropic and OpenAI are based out of San Francisco. Legal jurisdiction to resolve contract disputes, breaches of confidentiality, etc. can be resolved in a fairly straightforward way between two American companies, especially when they are headquartered in the same court district.

Chinese companies exist inside of a legal safe harbor where they have less incentive to play by the rules, and a much lower risk of consequences for getting caught breaking them. The risk isn't worth the perceived savings.

[–] FolknForage@lemm.ee 1 points 18 hours ago

100%

It’s as crazy as foreigners holding Chinese stocks

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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)

China I get, but Taiwan ? It's literally a US-proxy state

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

I'm sure that orange fuck will try to sell it to "beautiful" president Xi, or to clean it out to stop the conflict, or something like that, that bubbles up in his senile demented brain.

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[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 73 points 1 day ago

What a goddamn dumb fuck

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Awesome. More availability for the rest of us.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Wait until his voters see their toy prices flying up

[–] Blackmist 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

His voters seem to think it's Taiwan that pays the tariffs.

[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Can't wait to start putting Trump "I DID THAT!" stickers next to $5000 walmart laptops

[–] dan@upvote.au 5 points 1 day ago

I'm considering placing a bulk order for these stickers: https://cnliberalism.org/store/p/my-tariffs-did-that-sticker

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (5 children)

But that would be low!
And really the president doesn't have the power to set prices. Trump can't magically make eggs cheaper! And so on. Chatgpt what is the best open source open hardware guillotine plans?

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[–] braxy29@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

my tamagotchi 😢

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[–] Tomma235@lemm.ee 63 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So where is the US going to get its chips from then tax TMSC makes over 90% of chips?

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 34 points 2 days ago (24 children)

TSMC was supposed to open a plant in the US, but apparently that takes a bit of time to get running.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I thought the US FAB was also going to be a generation behind?

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[–] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 83 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Awesome! Send them to Canada, we can build data centres and sell the cloud services back to Americans powered by the electricity that we expect to be tarriffed, and cooled by the water we won't sell.

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hell, use the waste heat to power hot water heaters or something. It blows my mind that we don't do more cloud computing in cold environments. The servers produce heat, the people need heat, solve one problem with another. Instead we seem to be putting them in the driest and hottest climates available.

[–] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Indeed. My Alienware doubles as a space heater in my north facing office.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Or Mexico! We're already on it. Sheinbaum is working to get a chip manufacturing plant up in Guadalajara. Exciting stuff, honestly.

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Make the chips in Guadalajara, ship them out of Puerto Vallarta to Vancouver to power server farms in Surrey; cut the US out entirely.

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[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Trump is a chinese puppet apparently

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[–] thejml@lemm.ee 132 points 2 days ago (5 children)

He emphasized that the proposed tariffs would leave companies with no choice but to invest in domestic production facilities to avoid high taxes.

No choice except the obvious: Pass the cost of the Tax into the customer because there’s no way they’re going to spend billions to stand up a US fab plant anytime soon.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

That's just how tariffs work. They're not a weapon against enemy nations. They're a tax on Americans.

And nobody is going to bring production back to this fascist slave pen of a country.

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No choice except the obvious: Pass the cost of the Tax into the customer because there’s no way they’re going to spend billions to stand up a US fab plant anytime soon.

TSMC is standing up fabs in the US, mostly because we're bribing them to do so.

The problem is that it takes literal years to build high tech manufacturing and isn't something you can yank out of your ass to satisfy some idiot politician.

[–] cyd@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

By Taiwanese law, TSMC isn't allowed to move cutting edge processes to its US plant. The overseas operations have to be at least one gen behind.

From a strategic point of view, it makes sense for the Taiwan government to do this. They don't want the US to suck them dry then cut a deal with the mainland.

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[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 171 points 2 days ago (7 children)

In the end, only the customer pays extras.

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[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 75 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Can the fat fuck die from a coronary already?

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Look at Henry Kissinger. If left to nature, Trump will live to be 120.

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[–] dukatos@lemm.ee 81 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So, US is finally getting EU hardware prices

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