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[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 87 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Good for them. As an American I fully support them fighting back against our bullshit

[–] mPony@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks. Remember, it's nothing against you, or even against people who were lied to in order to get their vote.

At some point, some random billionaire will become slightly less billionaire-y and freak out about tariffs wrecking their bottom line. Until then, we've all got to grab on to our sanity and hodl like never before.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

The problem is the billionaires are self radicalizing. They're believing the lies they tell the poor, and that's a dangerous feedback loop. Barry Goldwater was what they would've wanted had they been rational actors promoting fascism for their class interests. Even the "smart" ones like thiel are clearly losing it. They too were not immune to propaganda.

[–] purplemeowanon@lemmy.ml 24 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Edit: this isn't about the article itself so much as an idea it gave me. Companies are refusing quotes for legal, not political, reasons. But they should be refusing for political reasons, something those of us in the US must start doing ourselves.

I'm obviously not happy it came to this. But, with the US being a genocidal, neofascist oligarchy, it's entirely necessary. This is real, we are the resistance, and we need to start acting like it before we get disappeared. It is absolutely the duty of every country that values equality, liberty, and solidarity to implement a total blockade on the United States and seek maximum sanctions until the genocide in Gaza ends, until threats of US expansionism end, and until the people reject neofascism, whether in the midterms, in a coup, or in a revolution.

For those living in the US and allied countries, it is our moral imperative to sabotage and destroy all machinery in the US that is being used or soon will be used by fascists. Just be careful who you target and be sure you know why you're targeting them. (Vandaling small Black businesses accomplished nothing. Targeting ICE will make you a hero.) Make evidence-based vandalism and sabotage your playbook to buy time for immigrants, trans people, Muslims, and Jews in your community by slowing the machinery of ethnic cleansing before it's too late. (I worry it may already be too late.) See:

Red Flag Alert for Genocide - United States

What the US is doing is based in an ideology of manifest destiny, liebensraum, expansionism, imperialism, and colonialism. See:

United States including Canada, Greenland and the Panama Canal Zone according to designs proposed by Donald Trump

P.S. If you do anything, don't tell me. Anyone can be a fed or a militant neofascist infiltrator.

[–] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

liebensraum

*Lebensraum. They don't have room for love.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 4 points 9 hours ago

On the contrary, they'll even dedicate a whole ministry to it.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 69 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Things are escalating quickly. Good job, everyone. Maybe it can trigger a coup.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

If they hold tight for a while, it's going to be wild... I fear international business lords won't let it happen.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago

Considering the fact we've been clapping "third world dictators" and installing others purely for profit or wouldn't at all be surprising but you can bet it'll be a weirdly confounding way. Ie. So unbelievably obvious and discrediting and yet so plausible no one can honestly tell if it's fact or bullshit, coincidental or intentional.

[–] nixfreak@sopuli.xyz 115 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

In the US. I hope this hits a lot of business (leopard eating face).

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

It's roughly 10% of our US steel supply (or around 40% of all of our steel imports)....meaning prices are going to start going up. This is going to hurt....

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 35 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

Did you read the article?

Don’t count on it.

“President Trump will do what President Trump wants to do. He has a plan, and I will play accordingly,” Goncalves said. “I’m a big boy. I bought Stelco knowing that Stelco is in Canada. And you know what? America first.”

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 47 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Let him. Stelco has regulations to follow. He can shut it down and then nobody gets steel and start fucking with trade agreements, but big corps aren't gonna like his scorched earth tactics.

Let him burn it all to the ground so we can start moving the economy away from the US.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 25 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I think people are about to learn just how much punishment people are willing to tolerate for Trump and how powerless our institutions are in the the face of rich people who are willing to bend so far for Trump.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

Wait until they see what other countries are willing to tolerate to decouple from the Nazi bully country.

Made in the USA is a mark of avoidance. Fuck visiting your country. I will sign up to die to defend Greenland from you for our friends the ~~Dutch~~ Danes.

Edit: I’ll die for the Dutch or Danes against Trump.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 5 points 16 hours ago

Shit dude this aint my fault lmao I’m not going anywhere need Greenland

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

What the hell do the Dutch have to do with Greenland?

[–] ReadMoreBooks@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago

They colonized it at the expense of the indigenous people.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 20 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That's why we as citizens need to organize and stand together in solidarity. Don't depend on institutions to fight back.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 32 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Man I want to pump my fist and say “hell yeah” but it has been a fight for a fucking decade and I just do not see the path forward right now. Right now it feels fucking hopeless and I know that will change but vague notions of unity and fighting back do not carry any water for me right now.

Some of us have put years of work into things that just evaporated two days ago with the stroke of a pen. I’ve been stun grenade-d by the police, been physically grabbed by MAGAts while trying to film interviews as a member of the press, called a race traitor and threatened by neo nazis, been doxxed twice, had my kids threatened, and I’m fucking exhausted. So unless you have something very specific and actionable right this fucking second I can do with minimal effort I just can’t give you any of my mental bandwidth or energy or optimism. I know it will come back, but today? I’m out of spoons.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 14 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

with minimal effort

no, none of my action items are minimum effort, sorry. Defending democracy will never be a low strain activity. I'm organizing unions in my workplace by following the disruptive and worker-led Minnesota Model of organizing. We workers make the world go round. As the US labor movement gears up for a genuine general strike in 2028 (yes, we're following through with Fain's call to action), we need unions of all stripes to form. Labor unions, tenant unions, debtor unions, etc. Then after forming, we need unprecedented inter-union cooperation. It's ok to be tired and burnt out. Let yourself recover, and then continue the good fight.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

So, to me it's the shield over the sword.

You can do so much more good protecting, sharing resources, building community programs, etc. If they burn the country down to ash, well your oasis might survive.

Then for aggressive stuff, non-compliance would be way more effective. Think simple sabotage manual, a bit of sand really grinds up the gears of fascism.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 4 points 19 hours ago

Too many words, too much to ponder, too few spoons. I appreciate it but I’ll have to circle back on this lol

[–] humancrayon@sh.itjust.works 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 4 points 20 hours ago

Thank you. I’m not trying to make it about me truly, I’m just so fucking tired

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

it sounds like you have put in a significant amount of good work

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Feels all pretty pointless now so thank you, truly. I’m “down but not out” sure, but man am I down right now.

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I feel you. Ive been way sadder this week than I thought Id be.

Im sure you know, but its ok to take a long break, not read the news at all and just turn your brain off for as long as you need to sometimes

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I have a lot of queer folks depending on me right now. It’s hard to truly step back. But no one said it’d be easy

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

right.. well hang in there. i admire you for what its worth

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 4 points 19 hours ago

Appreciate it truly. Not a lot to admire there are a lot of other people doing a lot more than I am, but I am proud of what I do!

[–] TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works 5 points 20 hours ago

He'll change his tune when he isn't selling enough to run his garbage company.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 30 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Good. Love to see it.

Starve the beast. Don't pay your taxes either. Go to HR and change your tax withholding to tax exempt.

You'll catch fines eventually. But in the meantime your check will be a little bigger and you'll be denying tax funds to a fascist government.

If we ever get a sane government I'll pay those fines happily.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 27 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Fines? You'll end up in the Tesla tunnels working until you starve to death

[–] cornshark@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

What do you mean? Isn't The Boring Company the one that makes tunnels?

[–] MrGabr@ttrpg.network 8 points 18 hours ago

Boring Company tunnels just doesn't have the same alliterative ring to it

[–] dx1@lemmy.ml 29 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Rest of the world understands solidarity better than U.S. voters

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I have no idea what that’s supposed to mean.

[–] dx1@lemmy.ml 21 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It means I should have read the article before I posted that.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 18 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I actually agree that Americans don’t understand solidarity, because they’re soaked in neoliberal, individualistic ideology. But even if they did understand, they’re so lacking in class consciousness that they wouldn’t know what to rally around.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

they’re so lacking in class consciousness that they wouldn’t know what to rally around.

If I have to read "it's not left vs right, it's top vs bottom" one more goddamn time

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Andrew has cracked the case… with ᴍᴀᴛʜ. /s

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

The video on that page is pretty interesting.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 12 points 19 hours ago

Begun, the trade wars have.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 21 hours ago

Republicans are good for the economy. /s

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 16 points 21 hours ago
[–] o_d@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

“I’m a big boy. I bought Stelco knowing that Stelco is in Canada. And you know what? America first.”

South Park character irl

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 12 hours ago

Yeah this reads like self soothing. Looking in the mirror in the morning "I am a big boy!"