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Google executives acknowledged this month they need to do a better job surfacing user-generated content after the recent Reddit blackouts.

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've stopped using it. I now bounce around alternatives but Kagi is the best and my go to now. Here are some alternatives to consider:

[–] sazey@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for bringing up Kagi, I had never heard of it before. An intriguing idea for sure and I am not averse to paying for searches, but as a serial Google-fu practitioner $10/month for 1000 searches (1.5c per search after) seems quite steep to me. Some days I swear that would last me 24 hours at most. I need to start tracking that I think.

I do however applaud the seeming transparency on their website. It may or may not be for me, but if they really plan to operate how they lay out on their website, it truly is a breath of fresh air and I wish them luck.

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[–] luvcraft@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

it's weird that all these articles talk about this only being a problem for people who put "reddit" in the URL; I never do that, and 90% of the time when I search Google for something (especially something about a video game), the first 5 or so results are all from reddit anyway.

[–] CynicalMillennial@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

We've been not happy with google search for years(Because it is garbage now) and it has very little to do with Reddit.

[–] Wolokin@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Let's just say that my use of the Wayback Machine is up by 1000% since the blackout started

[–] sazey@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not shocked whatsoever. Especially as of a few months ago, I only get SEO spam around 80% of the time, unless I stick [r word] in front of my query. It's not even just Google or just [r word] going to shit, I can see the internet of just 10 years ago dying in front of my eyes.

[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I'm "not quite happy" with the current state of Google, either. What are you going to do about that? You used to be a good search engine... what the hell happened?

[–] meiti@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Say the execs of the company who has ruined the internet with seo crap.

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[–] favrion@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

That was one of the first things that I thought about. People can't affix "Reddit" to their Google searches in good faith anymore, so what is the next most reliable community?

[–] 5BC2E7@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People will just have to start adding lemmy instead :)

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[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Wow, one meaningless, entirely replaceable piece of shit brought two giant companies to their knees. Good job, capitalism. Such a fragile snowflake.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Users weren't happy with the search results before the blackout either, and "quite" has no part in it. Google traded quality results for revenue over a decade ago... right about the time they changed their Don't Be Evil motto.

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My biggest concern with the downfall or even small proportional depopulation of Reddit is 100% going to be /r/sysadmin and /r/msp not being the best place to determine if there is an actual outage in progress for various cloud based IT services. I mean, it's a real, legit concern to worry over if you're in IT.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Yeah, no kidding. Google's been getting lazy with its search results. The first dozen hits on most Google searches are either YouTube or Reddit results.

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[–] squawkduck@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

@L4s What I'm frustrated with Google search engine, is how it prevent to be smart and kept suggesting keywords that are not relevant to what in searching, the suggested result is totally irrelevant except for one common letter.

[–] randombit@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Google today reminds me of what AltaVista became before Google. ChatGPT is amazing but now it and other LLMs are being used to generate crap content. I fear that the incestuous nature of AI training on AI may lead to “inbreeding” and all the problems that brings with it.

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