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Hey, community :)

I run a website that showcases the best open-source companies. Recently, I've added a new feature that filters self-hosted tools and presents them in a searchable format. Although there are other options available, like Awesome-Selfhosted, I found it difficult to find what I needed there, so I decided to display the information in a more digestible format.

You can check out the list here: https://openalternative.co/self-hosted

Let me know if there’s anything else I should add to the list.

Thanks!

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 33 minutes ago

What self-hosted alternative would you recommend for document collaboration? Word processing docs, spreadsheets, pdf’s, etc.

I was using Nextcloud, but it’s not been as straightforward for file-sharing as I’d like, multiple people can’t work on a document at once, and it doesn’t save changes consistently (especially with fillable PDF’s).

[–] Arehandoro@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 hours ago

This is neat! Bookmarking this. Not sure what you’re using on the backend, but are you open to contributions for more detailed descriptions?

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Wow, that's a really complete list. Thanks for sharing! I might check out Dokploy some time, it sounds interesting.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Maybe you wanna collaborate with selfh.st to complete each others list?

Edit: Looked at the list. Good job on the design and content. Bookmarked it :)

[–] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

We've talked with Ethan (owner of selfh.st) and shared some insights, but I'd definitely be open to collaboration. I don't think merging both sites is possible since we're focusing on different topics, but maybe we can figure something out.

[–] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Thank you all for the comments and the feedback! I've implemented most of the things reported. You can now filter the self-hosted tools by category directly in the filters. Tool cards should now show more info about the product on hover (longer description and the most popular alternative).

If you see anything else to improve, let me know.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Your self hosted page should have the categories listed too.

[–] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] x00z@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

Great stuff.

[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 16 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (4 children)

One thing I would like to see is a way to distinguish which apps do Real™ Open Source vs fakie open source. For example, I see Joplin on there saying "Your secure, open-source note-taking companion". I guess that's technically true at this point in time, but they also force contributors to sign a CLA so they have the option to pull the rug later on. (Something which does happen.)

They even say so explicitly:

This is necessary so that if we ever want to change the license again we are able to do so

https://joplinapp.org/news/20221221-agpl/#what-does-it-change-for-developers

And fine, if they want to do that it's up to them. I'd just like a quick way to tell the difference between open source 😒 and Open Source 😄.

simpsons

[–] egerlach@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

The Free Software Foundation requires "CLAs" as well. I have no fear that they're going to rug-pull. I don't think we can use that as the indicator. IMO, it's even a good idea to have a CLA so that's no conflict that the project owns the code.

The warning for me is if the project is run by a company, especially a VC-backed company. Joplin isn't, so I would be comfortable using it (although I don't).

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

Maybe a filter by license?

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[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Love the list, but scrolling through, the one liners don't mean much for a lot of these.

The descriptions are just too short and vague to even understand what a lot of them actually do.

[–] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Added longer description and major alternative when you hover over the cards. Hope that'll make it easier to browse.

[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, that looks amazing, and it's really quick. That's a huge improvement!

[–] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Noted! I have longer descriptions in the db, but didn't want to bloat the listings. Will try with a longer description soon.

[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It's a tough balance, you don't want a whole page for each one. Maybe if there was a clear list of tags so it's easier to understand even what category they're talking about?

For example:
Penpot
Design freedom meets open-source collaboration

I really don't know what this product category even is. Is it for web layout? Is it a drawing program? Is it for CAD?

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[–] Jean_Mich_Much@jlai.lu 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm tired of Cloudflare ... 😔

[–] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Sorry about that, had to enable attack mode temporarily to fight bots. Should be fine now.

[–] mac@lemm.ee 4 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah I havent been able to load the cf verification on my android for like over a week now lol

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[–] nottelling@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

In addition to other suggestions, the cards need to show what they're alternative to without clicking.

[–] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

When you hover over the card, it should show the most popular alternative now.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 9 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (6 children)

I wish more software wasn’t “hosted” these days.

I miss app ass apps.

Don’t mind me. I’m just feeling old.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean this lemmy is for self hosting apps. Not sure what you were expecting to come across lol. If you don't have a Nas or server or dedicated host computer you're probably not gonna enjoy anything in this lemmy

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[–] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

So sorry for all the errors! I got crazy traffic to the website and the database is not holding on as it should. Will have to upgrade the server very soon🫡

[–] reinar@distress.digital 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Appreciate the effort, but without categories it's not going to sail too far.
Right now it's just a long list of everything that it's out there, awesome-selfhosted is much more usable for looking up what you need.

Also, did you join any kind of affiliate programs/partnerships for these "10% off" green boxes? If so, would be great to disclose it. Nothing bad with getting some cash, but community will just appreciate the honesty.

[–] piotrkulpinski@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Added categories now so you can filter directly in the list.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] qaz@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Why does it list Gitea instead of Forgejo?

[–] andreluis034@bookwormstory.social 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 5 points 12 hours ago

Seems like the owners of Gitea did something like a self-coup and kicked out community members from the project. https://gitea-open-letter.coding.social/

Forgejo is the community-driven fork of Gitea.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Never heard of 99% in that list.

Also, Gitea should not be there. It is a corporate -owned open core project that was hostilely taken away from the community.

[–] myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

While I don't disagree with your sentiment, it seems like this list is just "self hosted open source alternatives". Even if there are better options, Gitea still falls under that definition, no?

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[–] Die4Ever@programming.dev 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

I don't see any Fediverse platforms on there, how would you feel about adding them? Seems like they'd fit.

https://openalternative.co/categories/social-media

Could add Lemmy, Mastodon, MBin, PieFed, PixelFed, Loops, PeerTube, NodeBB...

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

It's really surprising how fast people forget about the shady shit rustdesk has done.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

I'm new to self hosted in the last 6 months or so. What have they done

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[–] JPAKx4@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 21 hours ago

Can you change the color of the ad badge? I'm fine with ads, but it blends in too well :/

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