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[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] sibachian@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

you need payment security, scam insurance, and real identification. facebook has become a massive hotbed for scams because they have zero security measures and at least here scam reports to the police have increased by 349.75% because of facebooks lack of security and people sudden stupidity to choose facebook marketplace over the traditionally and known safe platforms.

one could argue that people using facebook marketplace over a safe platform deserves it. but its becoming a problem when everyone is moving their trade away from the other platforms in favor of facebook. likewise, it would be a huge problem for a fediverse based platform to compete with these services if it cannot provide a safe exchange.

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

When I started selling on n ebay over 20 years ago I would list CDs and other items with stock images because I didn't have a camera, people would physically mail me checks or money orders, I would deposit those and wait for them to clear, then mail them their items. I found a ln old piece of software in box that had a printed exchange between the buyer and seller off of a bbs from the early nineties.

I used to buy and sell car parts on a vehicle specific forum, but you could see the person's forum activity.

The board game geeks website seems to do ok with math trades. I'm not really sure how trust gets established there. Reddit does or used to to the secret Santa thing.

There's discogs for buying and selling media.

Of course everything is a scam now, even from "legitimate" companies.

People using marketplace to have things shipped is completely wild to me. Even local sellers are dishonest about the quality of their shit. At least on ebay you can get your money back if there's a problem. I'm not sure if you could build some kind of token of trust that doesn't require a central place that stores sensitive information. Maybe a way to verify yourself through a trusted platform like eBay, but those accounts can be stolen as well.

Whatever happened to people using craigslist is beyond me. Maybe the scams and lack of user accounts became a problem. They did implement an email system and you have to pay to list cars due to dealership spam. Of course a bunch of other platforms tried to take off and some alternatives became popular in other countries.

The benefit of decentralization is better moderation and specialization. It's much harder to scam a small community. eBay does absorb a lot of losses by just refunding buyers when there's a problem.

[–] jpeps@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I've said it before, but music chords/tabs.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

A dating site, difficult as it would be, would be great to undermine the Match.com monopoly

[–] randomcruft@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You mean like…

https://lemmy.ml/post/71396

or

https://github.com/lafnlab/Amore

Seems folks are thinking about it but… getting traction for these types of projects will be the real challenge. I’m not affiliated with either. I was just curious and did a quick search.

Would definitely use something like this if it comes to fruition.

It has to get mentioned in every thread about this and it was my turn

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Does anything in the Fediverse have e2e encryption? Shouldn't be hard to implement chat and a basic self advertisement, but I think even most people wouldn't dip in their toes if any server admin could easily read convos. Of course chat could always happen over text or whatever but you still need to securely exchange details.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think the main problem with a dating site would be the liability. You’d need really good moderation on every instance or you could get into some serious trouble.

Match gets away with it because they’ve got a huge legal team, but imagine if child sex abuse happened on a small instance run by volunteers.

Very good point about illegal activity. I don't know much about that world thankfully but I guess one of the biggest issues (to completing a transaction) is connecting the buyers to the sellers.

[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I doubt I'd have the skill to write it but I've long thought something like Etsy could be interesting.

I think the federated nature of the Fediverse could do well to stave off the worst of any spamming.

But the thing I notice the most with independent sellers is that the bulk of what they're doing is networking, generally amongst friends. Which, really, is the ideal environment for goods and services to be sold.

But, since capitalism always demands the line goes up, places like Etsy inevitably abandon them and making their sites encouraging of that kind of interpersonal connecting in favor of entities which can mass churn products out.

Setting up shops in the fediverse would allow people to easily host their own shops (and not be reliant on the infrastructure of, say, Etsy) and boosting would organically encourage a web of trust since their friend is essentially saying, "I know this person; they're good." You could even have the code autotag listings with a hashtag so people can filter out those types of posts, if they don't want to.

Not sure how you'd handle federation when you first spin up an instance but, still, more alternatives are better than less, I expect.

I dunno; I think it'd be interesting.

[–] That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, the only reason I'm still on Facebook is because of my local temple. If we could host a private group somewhere else with the same functionality, we'd jump ship in a heartbeat.

[–] johannes@lemmy.jhjacobs.nl 2 points 2 days ago

Look into Friendica then :)

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I consider it an "open source idea" but I did post something similar: https://lemmy.world/post/23359286

[–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah; exactly. You're seeing what I'm seeing. Reaffirming (to me) that this idea of ours is a good one.

Also a good idea and good point on why Amazon works.

This is a really good idea!

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FireWire400@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I'd vote for Elcaset

[–] salvaria@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is there a fediverse LinkedIn equivalent? I hate that site but certain job applications ask for it now

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I haven’t heard of one. That’s a good idea! :)

[–] Morys@lemmy.ml 2 points 16 hours ago

Somebody was working on one but not sure it's live any more https://github.com/Flockingbird

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I've love a federated online game. Hmm, maybe a MUD? Or some kind of sidescrolling platformer? Or a text adventure?

Shit, I bet I could code a federated text adventure based on ActivityPub. I've done crazier things on with Internet protocols.

[–] xilliah@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've been slowly chipping away on something like that

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's exciting! Happy to help test.

[–] xilliah@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago

Ok I've sent you a message

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 8 points 2 days ago

Open source federated gaming

Oh, I love this

[–] Casuallynoted@pawb.social 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I personally would love to see a fediverse alternative to something like StumbleUpon, which I always found to be quite unique in the realm of social media.

I also think having something like Spotify with social features powered by the fedi would be neat (I realise technically funkwhale is vaguely this, but in execution it really isn’t. It’s federation is pretty basic/not social). Thinking something where you can easily start listening parties, share music to friends to listen to, find song recommendations from friends likes, etc.

[–] geeknix@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I like StumbleUpon idea, doom scrolling links.

Need some preem braindances, choom.

[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

MySpace complete with way too much customer JavaScript injection.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

A game where you get 1 life attached to any AP account you have, when you die you are out until the last player is left standing. That'd be tight. Just post the updates and change logs on the fediverse. Share directly from the game to the fediverse.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago
[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm not sure what you're asking here.

Within the realm of computing any media we use today are a collection of bits. We use tools like web browsers to render many of those collections, text, image, sound, video, and pdf are all covered by current web browsers.

Other collections like documents and spreadsheets are rendered by their respective applications.

The fediverse only needs to support links to those for a functional experience.

What do you mean?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Damn now I want federated spreadsheets

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 3 points 2 days ago

That sounds terrifyingly interesting.

[–] Glitterkoe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

A bit like CryptPad?

[–] dabaldeagul@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Browsing those content types needs to be an enjoyable experience as well. Mastodon is best used for short text, Pixelfed is good for pictures, Lemmy is for forums/sometimes images and videos. Peertube is an actual video first platform.

Spreadsheets and PDFs could be shared over Mastodon, just like they could be over Xitter. But that doesn't make it a PDF based platform, or a federated spreadsheet editor. Which seems to be the thing the OP is asking for. A type of media that should be the main focus of a (Fediverse) social media platform.

[–] vk6flab@lemmy.radio 2 points 2 days ago

I wasn't sure what OP was asking, which is why I asked.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)