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I would like to know if is there any measuable metric that Zoom give to management team how much member participant in zoom call, like how often you talk, or AFK.

Just know if i need to game the number like talk something in the call.

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[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't be surprised they do, but at the same time if they do that it's a major red flag.

I literally won a "silent but deadly" award at a company retreat of which the premise is, I'm a very quiet person but when I do speak up you better pay attention because it's important. I hate talking so when I talk I'm not talking about my weekend, I'm talking about why we can't do that because systems Y and Z will blow up.

[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 10 points 2 weeks ago

I literally won a “silent but deadly” award at a company retreat

That's actually a pretty cool thing for them to recognize. Awards and things more often seem to go to the people who talk the most / loudest, just because they're the ones people remember, but having an explicit acknowledgement that they recognize the value in what you're saying is pretty neat.

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I used to be a zoom admin for a very large college before and during the start of COVID. At that time I never recall seeing anything about participation metrics and whatnot. Other than someone recording the meeting and watching it back I don't think there is anything they can see besides who joined and what/if they typed.

I will say the admins can see "private" dms to each other if they really want to. So while nobody else in the call can see what you're typing to your buddy in the moment the admins can if they want to. So don't type anything in those private chats unless you would hypothetically be ok with your boss seeing it.

It's been a few years since I left that job though so it possible they have added more data logging for things like camera and mic "on" time.

Personally even now for my work as long as I connect to the meetings when I'm supposed to they never care if I turn on my webcam or unmute. I'll answer the random question thrown my way, but otherwise I'm on my phone or doing actual work work while sorta half listening to whatever meeting.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Much of this came after covid. even before ai the transcript thing basically allows for this kind of thing and with the ai everything I would be very surprised it was not a "feature"

[–] Fake4000@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Teams does record how much a member talked and displays a bar that shows that information.

I wouldn't be surprised if zoom does something similar.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

[Microsoft product] [surveils]

I wouldn’t be surprised if zoom does something similar.

Have you considered that Microsoft is just being a dick? After decades of doing so, it'd be okay to assume this time too.

Zoom could also be a dick, but let's give them the benefit of the doubt.

[–] hamms@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Zoom's history of privacy violations renders them undeserving of that benefit, in my opinion; they're both dicks.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

If zoom is like teams, transcription can identify you. The transcript might give you up but someone has to analyze it.

Who has time for that?

[–] helix@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago

Who has time for that?

Managers.

[–] mannycalavera 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait till your management team hires AI to be operated by off shore workers!

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Wait till

New kind of plough?

[–] mannycalavera 3 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

I was going to point to this too. I haven't seen a direct metric, but the data is there if someone wants to pull it out.

Heck, with video cameras going they could even generate an "engagement score" based on how much time a participant's eyes are on the screen versus elsewhere. They don't so far as I know, but again the data is there if they wanted to.

[–] RotatingParts@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 weeks ago

So often, the thing that is easy to measure is seen as important. In this case, the amount said is easy to measure. The quality of what is said is not easy to measure, but more important.