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[–] CosmicSploogeDrizzle@lemmy.world 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  • Die in a few weeks? No
  • Get more users than reddit? No
  • Be a place in the long run for privacy minded people to escape corporatism and have discussions about any topic? Yes
[–] treadful@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Let's be real, most of the growth of Reddit over the last 5 or so years haven't been the type of folks generating good content and discussion anyway. Even if Lemmy gets like 1% of the userbase this place is going to thrive.

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[–] Vaggumon@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It was here before the Reddit implosion, will be after. Question is, will you be?

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[–] sota2077@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

This place has existed for a lot longer than the last month.

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy was here before Reddit and it’ll be around for a long time.

[–] HorseFD@lemmy.buzz 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Presumably you mean Lemmy was here before the recent reddit implosion

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[–] fubbernuckin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personal opinion: activity will spike around now, then plateau not much lower than its peak. It'll probably never be as popular as Reddit. I imagine most people will run into some minor inconvenience, then never try to use it again, and the rest of us will be here for years.

[–] sirnak@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I guess a big spike is still ahead, which will be around Saturday, once the 3rd party reddit apps shut down for good.

[–] BendyLemmy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Hmmm the main question is whether it can get it's content to show up in search results - this being the main selling point of Reddit and other platforms.

Right now, if you help someone fix an issue it's pretty much walled in and unavailable.

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[–] zepheriths@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Mate, it wasn't just created. This site has been around for a while

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I don't think it'll die... but it is a community that needs to be built basically from the ground up, while both the Lemmy/fediverse backend technology and infrastructure are actively being developed. Reddit refugees who want a drop-in alternative to doomscroll will probably be the first to leave.

The success or failure will be determined by the number of people willing to make an effort to post. Whether Lemmy (or the fediverse in general) will exceed the numbers of other services... I doubt it, but we wouldn't be here if we only cared about numbers.

[–] odama626@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I was pretty happy I was able to find my first answer on Google by using lemmy.world in the search today

It depends on the growth curve. Right now it's exponential, which means it will keep growing. When you see it stay linear for a while, it'll probably start to flatten. At that point, it's either big enough to stick or it's not.

[–] FinalBoy1975@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy will last because it was already around. I don't think it will die in a few weeks. Today is my first day using it and I love it. I'm sure anyone who tries it will like it, too.

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[–] sirnak@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think the entry barrier is still higher than reddit. So I doubt we'll see reddit users migrate by the millions because not everyone believes in free and open platforms like most of us do. But I'm excited to see what happens on Saturday when 3rd party apps shut down.

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[–] anthimatter@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I like it. It's not reddit and I like that about it most. I think it will stay and grow. I think we know what we don't want now and Lemmy could just be it.

[–] Transcendant@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Two things to bear in mind...

  1. Lemmy existed before this current reddit fiasco, so it will exist after

  2. there are a critical mass of users now, and imo the userbase will continue to grow, with more and more unique content added

  3. Android / iOS apps are out, and in development. Mod tools are coming (iirc). As fediverse becomes less technical / easier to use, it's only going to attract more people

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[–] danielfgom@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It will last. I plan to stay here. I hope everyone else does too. Even if Reddit totally went completely back to how it was, I deleted my account because I don't like their attitude. I also find the conversation better here. And it's all open source, which is always my preference.

Same with Twitter, I still use it to follow F1 drivers but that's it. 99% of my socials is done on Mastodon now as there are more people there who share my interests and it's open source.

[–] sovietafro@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

If lemmy can get the search algorithm to work well, it'll be good for a decent while I think... I hope for the sake of the internet everything needs to have some form of competition, and if Lemmy truly becomes the new reddit, hopefully we all learn what they did wrong and can make it better so that we as a collective have the best website/forum/memebase that's humanly possible

[–] Gleddified@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm ride or die once my 3PA stops working, so I hope it sticks around.

Gotta say, it would be more attractive if every other post wasn't a meta post about the platform and/or reddit. I hope we get some bots capable of ripping reddit posts and slapping them into Lemmy communities. As much as I'd like to pretend I'm a man of culture, sometimes I want shitposts and Tiktok reposts of someone's dog being stupid...

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[–] CannaVet@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While everyone wants to constantly cry about it not being Reddit - the fact that people are flocking here hand over fist over the more direct 1 for 1 Reddit clones shows that people do understand that we need to go back to a more decentralized web. Even if this doesn't hit critical Reddit size mass, there's enough of us to keep each other company ❤️

[–] burretploof@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

While I plan on using this platform for the forseeable future - I don't have too high hopes.

I think it will probably go the way Mastodon is going. A few weeks of being "hot", then dropping off until it's pretty much business as usual, as it was before being the hot new thing. Don't get me wrong, I want Lemmy to succeed and replace reddit, but I wouldn't bet money on it.

[–] FewerWheels@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Emperor 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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I’ll be here. I like that it takes a little more effort, it’s a little cumbersome or gatekeepy, but it also seems to keep the vibe more like the early internet and less like whatever it has currently turned into.

It reminds me of crypto spaces but without the incentive and monetization of action that seems to lead to a scammy and disingenuous feel to the content.

[–] egeres@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Definitely will stay around, yet, realistically speaking, I don't have much expectations about this endeavor even scratching reddit's monopoly in the next 1 ~ 3 years (I hope I'm mistaken), who knows what will happen in 10 or 20

[–] BlackCoffee@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Define "a few weeks"

The blackout started 12-06 which is 2 + weeks ago.

Lemmy and Kbin are still here and I see no sign of it slowing down. I see much more posts with more engagement which is a good thing.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't think Lemmy will ever get the mainstream attention that reddit has to get big celebrity AMAs, but that may be a good thing, if it stays a genuine place like it is currently, people will come.

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When Reddit forces "new Reddit" is when the real migration will occur. Reddit is dying more and more every day.

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[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I’m having fun here and it’s scratching my online discussion itch. I’ve barely been back to Reddit and when Apollo dies I think I will not go back at all. 16 years on Reddit and almost 300K karma.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It won't die in "a few weeks", simply because the likelihood of everybody abandoning ship in such a short timeframe is pretty much zero.

It will almost certainly become irrelevant after some years (we just don't know how many) because almost nothing remains relevant on the Net for more than a decade or two, though even "irrelevant" things still attract a few people so they rarelly "die".

Edit: Also and as a side note, I've actually been questioning just how many people needs to be around here for it to be a good place to be in. I don't think the "millions" of people of Reddit actually added to it and suspect that a few tens of thousand of users are enough for the place to feel interesting to be in and participate in, except perhaps in very obscure and niche subjects were you do need millions of people around for there to be a handful that are interested in such subjects.

[–] stranger@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'm interested to see the outcome of Reddit, since I've been there for almost a decade, but I'm kinda liking the change to lemmy and I definitely don't support Reddit's decisions or direction. I think I'm going to stay here and delete my Reddit account once I see the results of the 30th

[–] Cratermaker@vlemmy.net 4 points 1 year ago

I think it's here to stay, and it makes me hopeful that we can get a somewhat mainstream version of the Internet as originally envisioned. The corpo hellscape we have right now is garbage.

[–] Doodoocaca@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I hope they're going to find a way to make the whole federation thing less messy, otherwise I don't think Lemmy is going to be as big as Reddit ever was.

Also they have to solve the front page, where new topics are loading in from the TOP pushing everything down. Really annoying.

[–] herrwoland@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I don't know about you but I'm here to stay. Also, you need to define "die", since lemmy existed long before reddit drama and will be here after their downfall even if users leave it'll continue to exist.

[–] paulie420@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It all depends on us. I hope for more servers that FEDERATE - I'm trying hard to cut /r/ out of my life... if we do that, lemmy and the fediverse can live on... Will you?

pAULIE42o

[–] Ipodjockey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Either way I'm done with reddit.

[–] degrix@hqueue.dev 4 points 1 year ago

I have high hopes for Lemmy sticking around. The explosion in users around all the Reddit drama will likely have some of them stick around, which will be a net positive. It may not be good for “doom scrolling” any time soon, but it’s really nice to see some lively conversations in communities that are just starting to really blossom.

[–] linuxFan@vlemmy.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's been going for 4 years now. I think the worst case scenario is it falls back to the numbers it had before this reddit incident.

[–] WrenofDelpan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I think its community has grown permanently. It just depends how much of who's here is part of that growth. When the dust settles, I bet people will go back to reddit or somewhere else. But when that time comes, who will be part of the remnants? 50% of us? More? Less? I have no idea.

I think an important step in pumping that percentage up is to stop asking about this. Every day seemingly dozens of people ask this same question about Lemmy's future. This might be pessimistic, but at this point I'm beginning to think many people are either expecting or hoping for Lemmy to fail.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Fediverse will live on as long as two people want to share content. Users ebb like waves on the shore, and the sea level is rising.

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[–] joneskind@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I think and hope the fediverse will thrive in the years to come. It's the only way for us users to keep control over the platforms we use and feed.

It's time for the healthier internet we deserve. Networks like Facebook and Twitter have pushed toxic content to their users solely on the purpose of creating engagement. The World would be a very different place if that content had been moderated correctly instead of being pushed toward suggestible population.

I won't go back.

[–] Anitabath097@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Lemmy is really the only solution because it is becoming as indepth as reddit is/was. What sucks is it will still be like a splinternet situation, having to spread all of our solutions across the internet.

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[–] Emperor 3 points 1 year ago

We'll have to wait and see but I think this last issue with Reddit has given Lemmy enough of a boost that it will get the required amount of momentum.

It won't be long before a lot of the classic subs are reproduced over here and new users will be able to turn up and slot straight in and carry on doing what they were doing over there all pretty seamlessly.

It would be interesting to know what percentage of the most active posters made the jump as they are likely providing a much higher percentage of the content than the average user. It's those people that will really make a difference.

I also think having Fediverse alternatives to so much corporate social media and how well it cooperates with each other is also key. I am busy moving myself over to these services and I am liking what I see. It will always occupy a layer under the corporate one but that might be a good thing - like them act as the bullet magnet and let us just get in with things.

[–] hendrik@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think people will vent and quite a decent percentage will return to reddit eventually. Like it happened with twitter since Elon did his thing. But lemmy will stay. It has been here before all the people migrated from reddit and the fediverse in general will keep having a right to exist. And it will.

[–] rexxiteer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

AFAIK, Mastodon actually did gain a sizeable amount of users that actually stayed, even though the number of users has dropped since the peak.

I personally think something like Lemmy works better than Mastodon, since content is more important here than the users, which I think makes it more easy to have a self-sustaining community.

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