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As you may know, I moved to using my blahaj.zone account almost exclusively, as I kinda disliked the vibe I was getting from .world. At the same time, I also want to gage the feelings people have about the migration. Will you continue to use 196 on lemmy.world? Are you happy with the change? I want to hear from you:
i’ll continue to browse the one here, and i’ll refuse to put foot on l.w. That’s an incredibly wrong move.
all in all it doesn't really matter, I don't think. Nothing much will change. I just really loved that fact that there was a popular community not on .world. I liked it being spread out.
I feel like less might've changed if it had been another instance AND the community was given a heads up. It does seem like the mods really are willing to tolerate more than Ada, which would change things more gradually.
You know whats interesting with all this is while Ada is getting brought up a lot in contrast to the 196 mods, I actually think there's a mod on fedi that gives an example of how to handle this kind of thing better. Db0 is not perfect per se because no one is, but I can't think of a more transparent mod off the top of my head (though Beehaws has defederated a few larger instances where they may be). When he(?) wants to do something he just asks his users how they feel. He writes a lot of blogs about whats happening in his community and since he has a hand developing some of Lemmy's tech hes sure to let you know if a user-affecting change is coming. He's not perfect but he's got what I would dub integrity. This might be putting it on thick but I myself have modded a very small (low dozens) community and I've felt the burn of a lack of communication that moss is feeling now and its avoidable. Db0 does get into trouble with his users, but clearly he's actually in it for them.
I am in the process of switching my account from world to blahaj. So I'm not particularly happy about this change.
I'll use the new 196 as a passive viewer, but I'm unlikely to post or comment after this change.
What happened? I though it was a good place and also I don't .world is fit for 196.
Same here - if anyone has a breakdown of what these 'moderatorial and ideological differences' are that are part of how this is being justified, that would be awesome.
Hell, even just examples of where the clashes were would help me out a lot.
Edit: To those seeing this comment who are also out of the loop, recommend starting here: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/12464713
How do I feel about? I fucking hate it. The last thing that any of the Fediverse needs is more centralization. @ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone should take immediate action and demod those that are leaving. The fact is that with the current subscribers count, if a new mod team is installed, there could be no chance of the .world community ever gaining traction. I am willing to spearhead this, but I will need help.
well, Ada just kicking them out for wanting to leave would also be a very bad move XP
tho I guess we should ask Ada if we can assign new mods to the 196 blahaj community since basically they've abandoned it and there's no reason to keep it locked, but making a new one would be fine too
I imagine ada would not try and force the mods of 196 to stay or anything, if the mods of 196 think blahaj.zone isn't a good fit for them then they have every right to leave our community, however I think it's clear the community does not agree with the mods and think 196 is a net positive for blahaj.zone, so reclaiming 196 is a potential option, but in the interest of being amicable and not cause tensions with those who wish to leave peacefully, maybe making a new community on blahaj.zone would be better? possibly a 197?
yeh I said the same on another comment in this post X3 would u also be a mod if that was done? cuz thatd make 4 of us so far from what Ive seen :3 would be nice to have 8 like the old mod team I guess
I am interested, dm me or hit me up on matrix there's info in my about me
seems like someone was a few minutes faster to make the community lol X3 I pinged u on the new 196 :3
I am also up for moderating!
someone else made a new community! I pinged u there :3
big sad feels ;(
i will not join the 196 on the not blahaj zone! GRRRR >:3
i wan the 196 to be all local and comfy. i wan it to feel like home, with all u cuties and non-cuties-but-still-amazing-peeps in it!
i don wan the 196 to be on generic world instance. will join if there be a local 196 blahaj version!
imagine the COMFY FEELS knowing that U PEEPS made the funi im looking at!! <3
It makes me so sad, and the bottom image is an accurate representation of how I feel about it. It sucks that they made this decision without involving the community at all, and even though they say they're on good terms with Ada, some of the comment chains in the announcement post make me think that there's some bitterness on the mods' part. Ada has always been so nice and patient, even when 196 clogged up Blahaj's entire frontpage, or when it didn't have enough mods to handle a growing community. And if the mods don't like how an instance is run, what gives them the right to just take the entire community and move it somewhere else?
I came to Lemmy when Reddit committed to their API nonsense, and it always had this promise of being better than Reddit. Decentralisation was a big part of that promise. Moving 196 to the largest (I think?) Lemmy instance is the opposite of that. Blahaj feels small, local, cosy, and welcoming, like small concerts in some guy's basement. 196 always had the same vibes, and the move to .world will probably change that. That scares me because I really liked these vibes.
idk, I'm just rambling and none of it makes a whole lot of sense. I think I'll take a break for a few days, wait for whatever is gonna happen next, check out the new 196 on .world in a while, and maybe the old 196 is gonna come back somehow.
If they had involved the community from the start, I would've been fine with it (tho I heavy dislike .world). Then again, it would not have happened, had they put it to a poll.
The way it happened now, they've lost most of my trust and all of my goodwill. I'll not move. I hope we get the local 196 unlocked under new management, or otherwise we might have to create a new one.
I guess the positive side to this is I will be much more productive at work without 196.
That was Reddit aah behavior by mods.
like u said on another comment, Id also be willing to mod a new 196 but not spearhead it :3 (and thanks for teaching me a new word X3) and I think a new 196 on blahaj is the best option, either that or the old 196 comes back along with the old mods (which doesnt seem like they will anyway) and I already didnt like them but now I dont trust them at all, maybe it could be called 197 like back in Reddit X3 or just '196 Blahaj' to differentiate it from other 196s in other instances
I noticed they were somewhat unwilling to/incapable of removing comments that were mildly transphobic a while ago so while I'm disappointed that they are gutting 196 instead of new mods being introduced I'm not surprised.
I unfollowed every .world community I was previously following, then blocked .world entirely during the pre-backtrack period of their "we wanna do what Facebook is doing" announcement. I did unblock it later, but I'm not following anything on that instance, including 196. I don't believe what Moss and all them said about their talk with the lemmy world admins, I think eventually when they try again with the moderation change, they'll enforce it on 196 anyway, despite promising to let them moderate with their own rules. I also don't like that instance having the most content, which is just going to balloon up even more with 196's memes, since it starts going against the whole point of the fediverse, the decentralization aspect. If people start saying "well Lemmy world has the 'best admins' and the most communities so why make this community on another instance?", that's gonna have an effect, you know?
I just feel disheartened.
Also yes, I was a rule breaker, basically never posted there despite seeing it every day, but like half the memes I just downloaded and sent to my friends' dms. So 196 did account for a big chunk of my Lemmy activity.
I blocked the .world 196 community, safe to say I'm not a fan 🤷♀️
Wow. This is sad. I didn't even know 196 was going to migrate before this. I'd probably see it on All once in a while but I don't think I'd join the community.
Something about 196 being on a non-queer instance feels wrong. I can't explain it. Maybe it's because there are a lot of queer-positive posts on 196? Not sure. Meh, whatever. I think I have a vague idea of why they're moving away and quite honestly, if they want to bend to people wanting to stir shit, then maybe we're better off without them.
(Iirc the gist of it is that there was a troll who claimed to be "dragon gender" or something. Said troll said a lot of nasty shit, stirred up drama, etc. People decided that was a good excuse to misgender them and become the arbiters of what a "proper gender" is. People misgendering the troll got banned, then got pissy and cried about it. In the meantime, said troll was also banned at that point, it was mainly people stirring shit at that point. I'm pretty sure 196 is moving away from blähaj.zone because afaik Ada takes a zero tolerance stance on intentionally misgendering people; regardless of whether or not they're a troll.)
Quite honestly I'm kinda at the point where I'm considering quitting Lemmy entirely. Between the drama, doomposting, trolls and increase in general dickishness, it's honestly getting really bad for my mental health.
Wait, this is over friggen redacted by Cracks???
my head hurts.
Edit: Not sure it's wise or fair to call out the user specifically at this stage, so I removed that. If you read Mossy's comment and have been on 196 for any amount of time, you'll know. And it would be more about reactions to them, anyway.
Regarding 196: has it been different on Lemmy vs how it was on reddit? I'm on beehaw so I don't see .world posts or communities, but at least on reddit I saw a bunch of edgy shit being posted when I still used the site a few years back
Regarding Dragon rider: drag uses drag/drag pronouns iirc and has expressed previously that they/them pronouns aren't suitable for drag, so you may want to edit your wording just a tad. Still haven't been able to figure out if drag is a troll or not, but as you say even if drag is a troll drag still has a right to identity. If Ada's brilliant stance is why 196 moved, good riddance IMHO
Regarding your mental health: perhaps its worth blocking the communities or users that are bringing the majority of the drama/doomposting/etc? I absolutely empathise with the drain on mental health that can be, and I've been very very liberal with the block feature for exactly that reason. Its totally worthwhile to curate the space you inhabit online. I hope, whatever path forward you take, that you're able to find yourself feeling better and better.
Tbh theres been some real nasty/sketchy crap from Drag (multiple account harassment), id lean towards troll myself.
hey there, just weighing in. Neopronouns were not a factor in our decision. In addition, malicious misgendering has always been something that constitutes a removal or ban. this choice was in no way and attempt to reduce the queerness of 196
Random opinion: It would be wise to edit the post in LBZ 196, or make a new pinned comment, describing the rationale re: differences in moderation approaches more directly (at minimum, see the thread).
People are jumping right to other, less nuanced takes of the situation. I did too before digging deeper - the disagreements are subtler than what folks think they are right now.
I still think you and your team are making a mistake overall, but that's beside the point. As you obviously know, people are pissed and the vague description doesn't help at all.
Do with this as you will. Sincerely, best of luck - this is probably a rough time for you folks too, and I know you're just people doing what you think is best.
Do what is best for you, but it is my favourite social media. The best of the bad. Apart from random forums, the rest is just so infuriating to me.
Very unhappy with the change, I probably won't go to the .world community and expect/hope that someone will just recreate 196 on Blåhaj.
Every interaction I've had with .world mods has rubbed me the wrong way, they don't take criticism well and are way to keen to appeal to centrist bullshit and shitty lib takes. Blåhaj is my favourite space on the internet at the moment because of the way Ada manages things, I feel safe here. That the 196 mods have a problem with that sends a pretty concerning message imo.
yep. the only thing i would add is that theres already too much content on .world. we need to spread content out horizontally instead of just centralizing it on the biggest instance.
This is where I hear about the move? 😂 guess I’ll miss the memes, they were a good grab bag
i left .world because of their shitty admins and the problems they cause smaller instances. the moderation leaves much to be desired, they have shitty takes, they do whatever they feel like and i dont trust them any more than i trust a site like reddit.
as for 196, i liked the memes, i didnt really interact with the space much as it already felt less "blahaj zone" than the rest of the comms i interact with, so with them moving to .world, i doubt it will get better, and i doubt i will ever want to interact with that comm anymore. it was kinda shitty to not include the community whatsoever, but that kind of behavior is the exact kind i expect from .world mods so i guess they will fit right in.
very much agreed. 196 felt like the odd one out on the plaza of popular communities in general, being on comfy cozy blahaj zone.
whatcha think of special version of 196 for blahaj frens? i saw some peeps here suggesting it and i rllli like the idea!
imagine: u look at post and it makes sense and u go "ah yes, this was made be a genuine human, not a possibly selfish, queerphobic capitalist" and then u add emoticons like ["<3", ">v<", "~ ~ ~"] to ur comment to make it extra special.
i like that idea...
i wont participate in the .world 196, and i feel like i will miss the memes over there, so having something like that here would be cool, but i think we should try to make it somewhat distinct, call it 197 or something idk, i would be willing to help mod if we had a decent team, providing a space for my cool nerdy and cute trans fedi friends is something im all about, and wish i could do more of.
Will you continue to use 196 on lemmy.world?
Probably not, and if I do it will be mostly lurking.
I don't see why folks can't make their own 196 on each instance. (Maybe there is some reason for not specifically using "196" as the name, but a "196 themed" community.) Even back in Reddit you'd have subreddits that were things like "blah2" or "blah_casual" made by folks unsatisfied with the mods of the previous community. People can use either one or both if they'd like.
The original subreddit was 195 or 194, so you aren't wrong. I hope it happens, but people need to step up if they want that. I would be willing to help, but I couldn't do it alone.