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[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 66 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Neat data, but it seems like starting the coloring at 40% is really high.

I'm curious what this would look like if they counted counties with 25% and above degree requirements.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

not really, that's roughly the percentage for the entire population of the country.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Exactly. The less educated population matters just as much as the more educated. Those people are not represented in this map.

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

here's all the counties by education attainment. high school, 4-year college, graduate/professional degree.

source of the visuals:
www.smartick.com/data/visualizing-the-most-and-least-educated-counties-in-america/

using data from the census:
https://www.census.gov/data/developers/data-sets/acs-5year.html

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 2 points 1 week ago

Other than the obvious typo on the top chart, this is really interesting information.

[–] kemsat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Why would they be? The map is clearly not about that information. That would be a map titled “percent people 25+ WITHOUT a bachelor’s degree.”

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[–] pixelscript@lemm.ee 63 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This is somewhat a "people live in cities" graph, but not as stark of one I expected. Not all big cities are so educated, plus there are a lot of rural places that draw in a surprising number of people with advanced degrees.

Still, I'm amused that Interstate 29 in specific lights up like a string of Christmas lights.

[–] bisby@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Based on the states I know, some of the surprising rural areas are where state universities are.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

"People live in cities and get degrees in college towns" map.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

I live in such a place. You'd think it would be a bluish county because of it, but it's deeply red.

[–] kyle@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oklahoma only has 1 county lit up, and it's where a state university is, OSU. But it's ranked lower nationally than OU (#196 vs #132). Both are in otherwise small towns, basically overrun by their respective colleges. Anecdotally, Norman (OU) is known to have nothing in town, but Stillwater (OSU) has it's own subculture and town pride.

I'm curious how many of these counties just contain college towns vs how many actually might attract highly educated people.

[–] pshyco_sain@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

Norman is effectively a suburb of OKC. Also it's by county so all the stuff actually closer to OKC will out weigh the college town there.

It does appear to be mostly college towns and some high education cities though

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah. It is interesting that Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Phoenix, and Miami aren't on here while Salt Lake City, Denver, and Atlanta are very visible.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Denver vs Vegas and LA isn't surprising. Cities built on industries that don't require education won't be massively educated

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[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Whycome the south doesn't has orange boxes? Is we stupid?

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

No I ain’t

[–] Addv4@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

NC and TN have some. But we often is.

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[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

One can see the impact of the Yellowstone national park quite clearly.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Same with Los Alamos Labs in NM. That orange spot has more PhDs per Capita than anywhere else in the states.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Cambridge, Massachusetts might be its rival

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

I was wondering what that was.

[–] i_dont_want_to@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I want to see the map with 20-30 and 30-40 too!

[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I want to see a map with % of high school equivalency.

I am part of the original map though, I only have an associates

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you are wondering what that red spot in Wyoming ans adjacent green in Idaho is, they are the Teton counties (one on each state).

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah, Teton County is easy to understand although I do question how they have a higher percentage than Albany County. What I'm really wondering about though is that orange county in South Western Colorado. WTF is that about?

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

San Miguel County. There isn't too much there, but it does have Telluride, a very posh ski town. If I had to guess, I would say the less-educated staff (hotel housekeeping, restaurant servers, lift operators, etc) are only there seasonally but business owners/managers and maybe some remote workers are there permanently, skewing things a bit?

I would LOVE to see a better answer than mine!

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I'm pretty sure this is the answer. That county is super sparsely populated, outside of Telluride. Telluride is a mini Aspen, so is populated by wealthy (and thus usually educated) people.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I live near Indianapolis.

You wouldn't now it.

Edit: Ironically, I made a spelling typo. Sigh.

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[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Dang CO, you smart sexy bastard.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Mississippi making Arkansas and Louisiana look bad.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Damn, Arizona and Utah. What happened to you?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And Arkansas and Louisiana. They're all in the South, no surprise there. :/

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I looked to the south first and somehow missed those two. And absolutely no surprise about these two.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Ah, no worries. Funnily enough I did the same but on the East side and then saw your comment. Lmao

[–] geogle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I see you, Los Alamos.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Without having done my research, this feels like a lack of data more than anything.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Let me guess the red in Indiana contains Purdue and Bloomington

[–] Legge@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Neither I believe it's Hamilton County, the (comparatively) rich suburb of Indianapolis.

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[–] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Ah. That's why.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Why only count people older than 25?

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because otherwise the data would be artificially lower in areas with more children.

For example, imagine a suburb in Utah filled with college educated software engineers with big Mormon families. If you count the kids, it might look like people there don't have degrees.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Doesn't a bachelor's take 4-5 years, with people starting around 18-19? I guess we're only talking about a year or two so the higher age is to help cut down on the noise (doubt there's many people with bachelor's dying before 25 to skew the results)

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Below 25 it depends on how fast you finish your studies whether you own a bachelor's degree yet or not.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It filters out college towns with large masters and doctorate programs.

[–] usualsuspect191@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's a good point, need to control for students. Wouldn't 25 year olds still be in school for their doctorates though?

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Counties with colleges have a higher amount of college degrees, neat

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