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A Direct is announced for April 2nd to cover the games.

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[–] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca 156 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

So much for Nintendo's previous naming conventions. I was really hoping for the New Super Nintendo Switch U.

[–] caut_R@lemmy.world 57 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

They wanna make it very clear that this is their best-selling console ever but better, I would‘ve been surprised if they didn‘t just slap a 2 on it. There‘s so much riding on this for them.

[–] smeg 50 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

I don't think Nintendo have ever done a Console 2 before though. I was hoping for Super Switch but as ever Nintendo absolutely refuse to be predictable!

[–] runner_g@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sure it was considered, but a console nicknamed SS was probably ruled out.

[–] smeg 31 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I don't think the Sega Saturn was particularly popular with neonazis

[–] Thassodar@lemm.ee 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hmmm what about the Sega MASTER system?

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[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Plus it's an actual straight upgrade, what with backwards compatibility and all.

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[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 76 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Hoping they add Hall effect sensors and eliminate drift once and for all

[–] FrodoSpark@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

It looks like the controllers attach to the screen magnetically, which may interfere with the sensors of Hall Effect sticks

[–] riskable@programming.dev 70 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Hall effect sensor expert here! No, the magnets in the joycons that are used to attach to the display/body of the Switch 2 would not interfere with hall effect analog sticks.

Two reasons:

  • The magnets are too far away (sensors are usually only sensitive to magnets within 10-12mm directly above/below)
  • The mounting/attachment magnets would be perpendicular to the magnets in the analog sticks (if you imagine the flux lines they wouldn't cross the sensory boundary).

Regardless, it would be trivial to place a tiny little piece of ferromagnetic blocking tape wherever necessary to prevent interference.

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[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’m not a scientist but I’m pretty sure theyd be able to calibrate the sensors to ignore the magnetic force of the attachment points

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[–] sapphiria@lemmy.blahaj.zone 55 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

Can't help but be a little disappointed. The last few consoles have all been pretty drastically different, but this is just the Switch released again. Only with different connections so you need all new accessories.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 54 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nintendo collapsed its console and handheld product lines for the Switch. We're also seeing large parts of the gaming industry adopt the Switch form factor for their products. I don't think there is anything that Nintendo could innovate on that would sell.

[–] Lesrid@lemm.ee 21 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah with Nintendo watching two Xboxes languish and consumer discontent with the recent playstations as well, there's not a real impetus for something radical in design. Some innovation would be exciting but the Switch and PC Handhelds prove people want big grippy mobile devices, even if they're only moving between rooms.

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[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

At the same time, the Switch is such a solid console that a hardware upgrade with full backwards compatibility* is really the best case scenario. People have wanted a bigger screen, better chip, and better joysticks since launch, and now we'll have them!

*the video says it's not 100% compatible, but I'm assuming that's for stuff like Labo and Ring Fit that need those exact joycon sizes/shapes.

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[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nintendo consoles tended to be radical, Nintendo handhelds were more iterative.

The Game Boy and DS lines all built gradually on each other, seems the Switch line is following suit. I assume Nintendo see the Switch as a handheld that can be docked, rather than a console that’s also portable, so I guess it makes sense that it’s following a similar trajectory of previous handheld lines.

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[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 47 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

Cool for Nintendo fans but the ROG Ally has changed the game for me. I’ll miss Pokémon but they haven’t been good in a while so whatever.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 32 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Pokemon games all being the same caused me to get bored of them years ago. And now with them suing Palworld for 'capturing monsters with an object and summoning them in 3d space', a patent made after Palworld released their trailer, I find the Nintendo brand actively harmful to the state of gaming.

[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They actively become easier and shorter every generation. Arceus brought a lot of cool stuff into the series and there was a little bit of hope that things would improve only for them to go back to the stale old formula that wouldn’t be as bad if the games weren’t so easy now that you could beat them by mashing A. I know it’s for kids but damn, the old games were somewhat challenging.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The old games were beaten by a Twitch chat sending little more than random inputs to the game. Maybe the newer ones are worse, but let's be real.

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[–] _____@lemm.ee 18 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Pokemon is literally the same game over and over, I hugely regretted my purchase of pokemon x cause it was literally a cloned game with barely any new features. It's probably Nintendo's most effective cash cow in terms of effort to capital reward.

[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

It is literally the biggest money maker in the world. The games sell about 3/5 as many copies as COD with a tiny fraction of the budget. And then they sell even more in merch. And there are people (like me in the past) that buy Nintendo consoles just for those games.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 40 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)
[–] devilish666@lemmy.world 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Nintendo lawsuit want to know your location

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Looks starkly.... Non-Nintendo-y?
I dunno, changing from the full colored joycons to black with accents and more rounded corners caught me off guard. This looks like a handheld from GPD or ONEXPLAYER

[–] thehatfox@lemmy.world 25 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Everything has to look so serious these days.

The colourful Joy Cons were part of the Switch’s identity, sad to see it reduced to an accent they seem almost ashamed of.

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 35 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Was kinda hoping for specs. I like the design upgrade, though.

[–] simple@lemm.ee 55 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Much like the rest of the announcement, the specs actually got leaked a few days earlier: https://thegamepost.com/nintendo-switch-2-full-specs-appears-to-have-leaked/

TL;DR: 12GB of RAM, GPU that's roughly on par with the Steam Deck. It's not the most powerful handheld out there but surprisingly not bad for Nintendo standards.

[–] caut_R@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Especially considering it has access to DLSS, I‘m looking forward to see what Nintendo‘s first party studios can cook up with these specs. But I‘m waiting for the OLED model sometime in the future.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 14 points 2 weeks ago

GPU that's roughly on par with the Steam Deck.

...when comparing TFLOPs, and that's not comparable across architectures (by different companies as well!).

If we take similar-performing (in rasterization) Ampere and RDNA 2 cards (say a 3080 and 6800 XT), we can see the 3080 has 29.77 TFLOPs and the 6800 XT has 20.74 TFLOPs, an RDNA 2 FLOP is worth about 1.4x as much as an Ampere FLOP.

So extrapolating the 1.6 "RDNA 2 TFLOPs" of the Deck we get 2.24 "Ampere TFLOPs" and that'd make the Deck quite a bit faster than the Switch 2 in portable mode, but slower than the Switch 2 in docked mode.

This is obviously all just wild and silly speculation, but I doubt the Switch 2 will match the Deck in portable mode. Samsung 8nm would just eat too much power for this to realistically happen in a handheld form factor.

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[–] Eggyhead@lemmings.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I’ll wait for the OLED model, because apparently this isn’t it.

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[–] rimjob_rainer@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Can't wait... for a Switch 2 emulator

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago (20 children)

I bought a game on switch for like 40 bucks that ended up being really bad, and tried to get it refunded within about two hours of purchase, after about thirty minutes of play time. Couldn't get the refund.

Ever since, I was VERY slow to buy anything, because, what if it's unexpectedly bad? I have to know I mean it, otherwise I shouldn't buy it. I want to buy a game, not flush money down the toilet.

So, now I kind of just don't want a Switch 2.

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[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

This blog post is worthless. A direct link to the official video announcement would be better.

https://youtu.be/itpcsQQvgAQ

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

It had worth to me, as someone who was stuck in a place where it was unacceptable to watch a video but was acceptable instead to read a summary quietly.

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[–] bungle_in_the_jungle@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It is a video game console that I have ever seen.

[–] g1ya777@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Retro compatibilty probably powered by Yuzu ?

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[–] LambdaRX@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I prefered colorful joycons, but I'm also glad that, there is audio jack port.

[–] MisterNeon@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I really don't like the logo. I know why the logo looks that way considering the Wii U branding debacle, but still.

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