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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If the US had Defensive Democracy, then maybe they could do something.

But instead, we have whoever wins (aka: gets the most rich doners) gets to become president, even if they want to violate the very oath they are about to take.

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 2 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Which means that the only thing that can stop the orange idiot is one high ranking military officer having the courage to arrest him as a domestic threat to America. Although that would come with its own set of problems. In other words, we're fucked.

That would be considered an illegal coup, however ethical that act might be, it wont be legal, and thus nobody would do it. So yes indeed, we're fucked.

[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 2 points 9 hours ago

Idi Amin now available in a gas station near you

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't Eisenhower or some president warn about the dangers of the burgeoning military indistrial complex in his farewell address?

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[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 24 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The fuck are they supposed to do!? We as Americans voted Trump or didn't vote at all. Therefore, the fascists won.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 17 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Trump got the same votes as last time basically.

Democrats didn't show up. Again.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago (5 children)

I think too many of them felt complacent in the idea that Trump couldn't win..

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[–] AidsKitty@lemmy.world 23 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah Trump won the election. That is how democracy works.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 13 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Reporter: "Would you ceded the election if you lose?"

Trump: "If it's a fair election."

The reds prepped for MONTHS if not longer to fight democracy if Trump lost. They had loads of active cases up until the election on loads of bullshit interference. Which all promptly disappeared when Trump won.

Democracy isn't the issue. It's the corruption of these rich assholes.

[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

Also that they act in lock step, dissidents will be rooted out. So they become a (seemingly) united front, which helps immensely at systematically eroding democratic institutions or destroying political enemies

[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

how it should work. we saw 4 years ago how that is not how it works under said fascism

[–] Hikermick@lemmy.world 26 points 17 hours ago (8 children)

Don't blame them, blame the people who didn't vote

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

But also blame the DNC for running a de-energizing campaign yet again.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago (6 children)

If I were them I wouldn't exactly have a strong emotional desire to protect the people who voted for a fascist felon over them.

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Yea man, instead of just handing over the keys to the fascists they should be doing something, like creating angsty memes!

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[–] lud@lemm.ee 37 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

What are they supposed to do?

The majority voted for Trump. What more is there to discuss?

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 24 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (9 children)

They could at least stand behind the messaging from the campaign.

If you call someone a dangerous threat to democracy for a year, and then when they get elected you wish them well and act civil, it really undermines your point about the whole threat to democracy thing.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago

Exactly. I believe Trump truly is an existential threat to the world and American democracy. To Biden and Harris, it was just campaign jargon.

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[–] mhague@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The majority voted for Trump in a country with voter suppression, gerrymandering, and even terrorist threats against voters / poll workers. I don't know what to think of that statistic in light of... many exhausting decades of bullshit.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So what? What are they supposed to do?

Stage an insurrection?

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[–] brlemworld@lemmy.world 30 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

The majority didn't vote at all.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 19 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Like in the Trolley problem, not making a choice is itself a choice.

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[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 5 points 18 hours ago

yeah this stuff is so rediculous. What if they had warned? then the meme would go to the next goalpost or whatever.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 63 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

They will be fine. With their millions of dollars, book sales, philanthropic foundations, speech engagements, fundraising… The changing of the guard doesn’t mean shit to them except they’re not on the government dime anymore.

The rest of the (sane) country? Watching them row away from the Titanic in a half-empty lifeboat.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 68 points 1 day ago (15 children)

The people have spoken. The last duty of the outgoing administration is the orderly hand-off to the incoming admin.

What about this is hard to understand? They're doing what we ask of them; even if you, me and they fear the next 2 years and then 2 more.

But I suspect this is just trolling.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

The ~~people~~ moneyed interests in charge of a deeply unrepresentative system have spoken

Fixed that for you. If not for several kinds of voter suppression and the Dem leadership being deaf to the left two thirds of the base, the GOP would have become permanently uncompetitive to the point of irrelevance DECADES ago.

What about this is hard to understand? They're doing what we ask of them

False, see above. The US is one of the LEAST representative "democracies" in the world even when you DON'T count legal corruption as corruption.

But I suspect this is just trolling.

BIG "criticizing Biden means you love Trump" energy 🙄

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Good thing we didn't vote! We might have changed this!

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 28 points 23 hours ago (8 children)

If enough people voted, the Democrats would have given people free health care, stopped financing wars, torture and genocide, close Guantanamo, improve public transit, boost public education, and lowered the cost of groceries. If only enough people voted for the Democrats, they could be in power and bring change. Of course!

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

Just pointing out that the last time Democrats had a filibuster-proof majority and the Presidency, it was for 73 days in 2009 and Obamacare was passed.

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[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Assuming you meant it sarcastically, this is brilliant.

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 19 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

It is. I'm not American but we are facing similar issues where I live and it's a bit insulting to be told that simply voting would change anything.

We (and the US) have alternated between two major parties for decades. They have had ample time to show us how they run things. And from what we've seen, it's difficult to assume that anything would be different the next time they are in power.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

That's my perspective. The two parties take turns steering the Titanic. Democrats seek compromise with the icebergs. Republicans look for more and bigger icebergs, full speed ahead.

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