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    [–] Default_Defect@midwest.social 186 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    Lets not be deliberately obtuse, you're clearly meant to be using it with your feet.

    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 71 points 1 week ago

    Just the left foot only

    [–] m4m4m4m4@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    TIL Gnome devs have (left) foot fetishism

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    [–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 170 points 1 week ago (9 children)

    GNOME is more keyboard-focused than KDE. It just also happens to have much better touch support.

    Get this meme to /linuxsucks where it belongs.

    [–] SatyrSack@feddit.org 109 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    In my experience, KDE Plasma is surprisingly actually better than Gnome for tablet use. You would think that Gnome's more minimal and chunky UI would make it a better fit, but Plasma just has a lot more little usability QOL features.

    [–] kaidenshi@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

    This has been my experience as well. Fedora KDE is easier and more intuitive than Fedora GNOME on my Surface Go 2.

    [–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 19 points 1 week ago

    Did something change on the keyboard front? I love KDE but I can only use it comfortably on my Steam Deck with a horrible combination of Steam's keyboard, Onboard and Maliit and all of them suck in their own little ways.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago

    Not everyone is the same

    [–] leo85811nardo@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago

    GNOME is more keyboard-focused "in the way the devs thought it's good". If users want to change the way, they gonna use tweaks, dconf editor or gsettings and navigate a jungle of key-value pairs like Windows Registry

    [–] gsfraley@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Yeah, this meme is a complete whiff, just seems edgy/hipster-y while ignoring the fact that nobody really cares because GNOME is a great DE.

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    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    How is KDE less keyboard-focused? I spent like ten minutes setting up kwin shortcuts and now have the same level of keyboard-only interaction as with any WM.

    [–] verdigris@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Well, I guess because you don't need to do the ten minutes of setup.

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    [–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    GNOME doesn't have nearly enough keyboard shortcuts for me as a keyboard focused user. IMHO, keyboard use is all about customizability, which GNOME is not.

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    [–] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Slightly off-topic, but this annoyed me during the Win 8.1/10 start screen era as well. Just because an interface is touch-friendlier doesn't mean it can't also be an improvement for keyboard/mouse users as well.

    Then they ditched all that and made it a worse experience for everyone in Win 11, so un turn I ditched their mess and fully switched over.

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    [–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 week ago

    And it can be even more keyboard focused with Pop Shell over the top. That adds tiling and window focus by shortcut, similar to i3-wm.

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    [–] Sestren@lemmy.world 114 points 1 week ago (11 children)

    Gnome does some questionable things, and some are just personal preference, but there is at least one thing that they do that makes zero sense regardless of how you use your system...

    The AppIndicator extension SHOULD be default. There is no reason for it to be an extension other than pure stubbornness. There are applications that literally require it in order to function at all.

    [–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    That you need an extension to disable the overview at startup still boggles my mind and the arrogance of the developers in the thread that started it didn't lessen my antipathy for Gnome at all.

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    [–] ikidd@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Default the cursor to the Search field on a Save dialog is possibly the absolute fucking stupidest thing ever.

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    [–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 20 points 1 week ago

    I think the lack of a system tray in gnome is a case of perfect of being the enemy of good.

    https://youtu.be/ejqNCbE42cg

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    [–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 92 points 1 week ago (4 children)

    In a land where desktops can be ripped out and replace with ease - what's the point in arguing? GNOME isn't my thing but I'm glad it's an option.

    [–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Can you swap out desktop environments in Linux like launchers on android?

    [–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 63 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Yeah pretty much. Or have multiple installed and pick which to use when you log in

    [–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    Wait what?! Install several, pick upon login?! Had no idea, that's awesome.

    [–] Flipper@feddit.org 15 points 1 week ago

    Depends on your login flow. There is a session manager which normally boots up and let's you choose. But you can also configure it to auto login and send you to the Lockscreen of your window manager.

    [–] gimsy@feddit.it 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    You can also mix login manager, window manager with desktop background managers, wallet managers etc..., in practice you can build your own desktop experience

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    [–] wer2@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    My main complaint with how Gnome does stuff is in environments where it is the only option (e.g. RHEL).

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    [–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 63 points 1 week ago (7 children)

    GNOME looks like it is touch friendly, but try to run it on a tablet and it's really fucking not. I had to DL a bunch of tweaks tools to make it useable at all and now the tablet breaks whenever there's a Gnome update that the tweaks weren't designed for.

    [–] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    I run Gnome on Debian on a tablet, and I find it wonderful.

    Of course, my only points of comparison, so far, are iOS, Android and Windows tablets. Gnome is (per my own arbitrary last use of each) quite a bit nicer than any of those, at least.

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    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    I like gnome personally. It is all about simple inclusive design

    [–] salarua@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 week ago

    I get distracted/overwhelmed fairly easily, so GNOME is a godsend. minimalistic top bar + on demand workspaces to throw my extra windows into = I can actually get stuff done.

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    [–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 35 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    I thought it was going to be a joke about Windows 8

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    [–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

    Wh-what? Have you used GNOME before or just mad because they don't have the shitty main menu copied from MS Windows?

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    [–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 26 points 1 week ago (6 children)

    most of the things in gnome extensions should be built in and available from the settings. that being said there's nothing stopping me from just using something else, hence why I use kde.

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    [–] Kaput@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago
    [–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I'm going to roll your machine back to KDE4

    [–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

    Hell yeah, Oxygen

    [–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Gnome has more in common with hyprland than it does with tablet interfaces

    Fight me fight me fight me fight me

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