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Even gamers nexus' Steve today said that they're about to start doing Linux games performance testing soon. It's happening, y'all, the year of the Linux desktop is upon us. ᕕ(ᐛ)ᕗ

Edit: just wanted to clarify that Steve from GN didn't precisely say they're starting to test soon, he said they will start WHEN the steam OS releases and is adopted. Sorry about that.

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

This is so great to see, and the timing is perfect.

My son already calls the PC Steam, as in “we played game A on Xbox and game B on Steam,” so maybe by the time he has a PC in his room Steam really will run the whole platform.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 4 points 12 hours ago

Hell yeah, brother.

[–] gramgan@lemmy.ml 10 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

I thought this had already happened?

I remember seeing ads on Steam for SteamOS years ago—wasn’t there a point at which you could download and run it on your own computer? What happened?

[–] Belgdore@lemm.ee 5 points 11 hours ago

Old steam os was an Ubuntu derived OS. Ubuntu has issues relating to the organization that runs it. New steam os is basically a coat of paint on top of Arch which is community based. The old os is deprecated.

The version on steam deck is fantastic, but they have been polishing it for desktop use for a while now. I can’t wait to have it available.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If I recall correctly, this has never happened the way it's happening now. It was a matter of "hey, you can fork it on GitHub and make your own iso thing", hence why there was a "holoiso" or something like that that (I keep forgetting the name) where people used if they wanted to install steamOS on a device. This one is straight supported by valve. Like "hey, here is our official steam OS that we use on our steam deck. Use it and we will support you".

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[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 9 points 13 hours ago

From what I recall, it wasn't something you could easily use like a normal distro, and that version was based on Debian (so stable but outdated software). It only worked on some hardware, and you had to do a full system wipe.

More likely, this is them officially partnering with handheld or gaming laptop makers, using their latest Arch-based distro and allowing them to use Valve/Steam branding as a selling point.

[–] jjagaimo@lemmy.ca 4 points 12 hours ago

I think modern steamos is based on a different distro then it was then. Also proton is good enough now to justify switching for a lot of people

[–] adrianhooves@lemmy.today 6 points 12 hours ago

let's goooo

[–] argarath@lemmy.world 20 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (5 children)

This is the fifth person I see misinterpreting what Steve said about doing Linux performance testing, they aren't going to start doing this soon, they will only start doing it WHEN SteamOS is released for desktops! It was very clear on the video FFS

I'm also really fucking excited for that tho, I recently switched to mint and helldivers 2 actually feels smoother than on windows, it has been such a good experience!! I cannot imagine how much better things will get with more people jumping to Linux and thus game makers actually pay attention to us

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

My apologies. Fixed it in the main post with an edit

[–] argarath@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks you! And sorry if I was too aggressive, reading it again it sounded way more aggressive than I expected, I just wanted to sound energetic instead, my bad

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 1 points 8 hours ago

Of course, and no worries. We are all good :)

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 16 points 16 hours ago

Every game I bought on Steam under Windows runs great on Steam in Linux Mint. The few games I didn't buy on Steam (Deus Ex, Giants: Citizen Kabuto) run great on Wine, using the default settings.

Adopting Proton was the smartest thing Valve ever did. They're going to get about 90% of gamers migrating from Windows to Linux, who don't want to fiddle with configuration settings.

[–] Patariki@feddit.nl 12 points 16 hours ago (19 children)

I just build a new gaming/creative pc, decided to make the jump to linux mint while i was setting up something new. And I honestly expected more hickups than i got, nothing which a quick search didn't fix except for one. My xbox controller won't connect over Bluetooth, it works when connected through a cable though. But I also noticed some stick drift, so I'm tossing it and order an 8bitdo which has those magentic sticks (forgot the name) and linux compatibility.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

To fix your Xbox controller issue, you'll need to do a firmware update on the controller itself. And that can only be done on windows unfortunately (unless you can figure out how to do it in a VM). Then when the firmware is updated, you install Xpadneo and you should be golden. How do I know? This is exactly what I had to do thanks to a random redditor who chimed in to help when I had this same issue. My controller now works on Bluetooth with zero issues.

[–] Patariki@feddit.nl 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I guess your the kind random ~~redditor~~ lemmytor(?) now. That did the trick.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 2 points 10 hours ago

Yay. So happy I was able to pass on the kindness. I love Linux

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[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 35 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

I saw a post on bluesky saying Steamdeck can't be widely adopted because of linux. I asked why is that the case? He says "Linux doesn't run as many games as windows ". I said "only a few and the anti cheat ones". He kept arguing. I asked him about nintendo and he goes "It has the games to back it up" and I blocked him lol.

Millions of games are not enough because its FOMO.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 26 points 19 hours ago (9 children)

Linux doesn't run as many games as Windows

I'd argue it runs more due to compatibility breaks. Wine just-werks with a lot of old installers.

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[–] somenonewho@feddit.org 37 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

I've been using Linux exclusively for ~14 years now. Heavily gaming on Linux only for the last ~8 years.

It was possible (though sometimes headache inducing) to play most games back then (Wine and soon Proton to thank) the biggest change IMHO came with SteamPlay since it turned the headache into one click on most games (thanks to the amazing work of wine/proton developers and the tinkering of the community).

When the SteamDeck released people seemed surprised at the breadth of games that were running on day one. To me it was not really a surprise since I had been Linux gaming with SteamPlay all the time and was almost expecting games to "just work" (though I still would and still am checking ProtonDB before purchase).

What the SteamDeck changed in my view was

  1. Showing "everyone" that Linux Gaming is a thing that's happening and been happening for a while. So maybe check it out?
  2. That a Handheld that doesn't have to work around Windows but uses a purpose built OS just makes a lot more sense

I feel that the SteamDeck with SteamOS has really put Linux, especially Linux gaming on the map. Even though I want to be like "Linux Gaming has been a thing forever, I was doing it before it was cool" ;) I have to recognize that fact. In the past years I've seen so many people setting up Linux especially by the way of SteamOS (using HoloISO, Chimera ...) just to play/mess with it which is also why I think an Official SteamOS release will make a huge difference.

Tl;dr: Gaming on Linux was a thing before. But the SteamDeck/SteamOS 3 made a huge impact nonetheless.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 184 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (40 children)

To anyone reading this thinking "once SteamOS comes out, I'll switch", you should know:

Gaming on Linux is already here. Pick a distro and game. You can take advantage of Proton right now. You don't need to wait for one specific distro.

I've personally been gaming on Linux exclusively for about 3 years. Windows games, not Linux games.

Edit: based on other commenters' suggestions, I'll give you some.

I have gamed for those three years on PopOS. It is a distro based on Debian, ultimately, which means it's also related to Ubuntu and Mint. Realistically, you can pick any of those 4 and you should have a nice experience.

Arch is popular with the übergeeks, and I do use it on my laptop, BTW, but you shouldn't use it as a first distro.

The concept of "distro" doesn't really exist for Windows, because you pretty much get one monolithic product. But basically, it is a specific mix of software that works together and relies on the Linux kernel. Imagine it as a "version" of Windows with specific goals, some of which are overlapping (e.g. Mint and Ubuntu tend to cater to the same audience).

If you get far enough into it, the freedom that Linux allows means that you can turn any distro into any other distro.

[–] kapitol@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago

Some game developers (AGS) won't turn on EAC for their games (Lost Ark).

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 46 points 23 hours ago (9 children)

When SteamOS releases on all devices people will say "I'll switch when every peice of Windows software is compatible" or some other unreasonable and impossible accomplishment. Even if every peice of Windows software was compatible people would say "ill switch to Linux when it looks and functions identically to Windows".

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