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I've just finished A Deepness in the Sky by Vernor Vinge. It was amazing and coincidentally my two last books where children of time(1 and 2) and (as to not spoil the reveal) a certain book involving spiders/crabs that live in high pressure environment.

I'm thoroughly enjoying the theme I have going on even if it was purely accidental, what would be some good recommendations involving sentient spider to pursue next?

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[–] Yazer@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Children of time is a fantastic book about intelligent spiders. One of the best sci-fi I've read

[–] A_Menace_To_Society@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Kid named reading comprehension:

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Wholeheartedly agree. It quickly became one of my favorites.

[–] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Rocky from Project Hail Mary is kind of spiderlike

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's actually who I was mentioning last haha. He definitely fits the bill! I was quite surprised when the author introduced him, I was not expecting it.

[–] phx@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I listened to Children of Time (and Children of Ruin) earlier this year. Just listening to PHM now and that was my first thought with meeting Rocky.

I am not a fan of earthly arachnids but space-spiders seem pretty cool IMO

[–] Izzy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not a huge deal, but if you see this message would you be able to put a spoiler around the book title? 👽

[–] chrisgpz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I read A deepness in the Sky years ago and loved it, and just today got a copy of Children of Time :)

While not Spider related, A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge is really good. It's sort of the prequel to A Deepness in the Sky.

[–] Bynoesaur@mander.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

I love Fire Upon the Deep so much! Love the slow release of details in those first few chapters that build the world without giving it all away up front! Also thought it was really clever how the author avoids making the book feel quickly dated as tech evolves past what was around when he wrote it, especially around the 'what the internet will be like in the future' bits by focusing more on human behaviour and how we would use futuristic versions of the internet instead of getting to specific about the way the future tech itself works. Cause human behaviour doesn't really change haha.

[–] MisterFeeny@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While not Spider related, A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge is really good. It’s sort of the prequel to A Deepness in the Sky.

You have that backwards, actually. Deepness in the Sky is the prequel, set about 20k years before A Fire Upon the Deep. Both are good books though!

[–] chrisgpz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Ahhh, thanks! It's been quite a while since I read them.

[–] erte@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just started Children of Time and can’t put it down!

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

One of my all time favorite books! I love how deep he goes into their culture and communication, as well as the time jumps. The book is fantastic.

[–] Nacktmull@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Giant alien spiders are no joke!

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago
[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of the alien species in Matter by Iain M Banks is a spider like insectoid.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I've seen matter recommend on this sub not too long ago, I'll give it a go. Thanks!

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you like frightening giant space crabs, the Prador in Neal Asher's books are great. Absolutely vicious and villainous.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'll definitely look into it. I love a good villain. I guess il start with prador moon as per my theme but all his series look pretty interesting after giving his wiki a glance. Thanks!

[–] ingy@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

A Darkling Sea by James L Cambias. Not spiders but I found this one similar to Children of Time in the way the non-human species viewpoints were described. It deals with an underwater species on another planet making first contact with humans.

[–] _m_cubed_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

A.A. Attanasio’s The Last Legends of Earth. This book is absolutely bonkers, and I don’t mean that as a slight. It has, among other things, a race of sentient spiders called the zotl which feed off of the pain of sentient creatures. It’s a wild ride.

[–] qwertyasdef@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity, what is that spoilered book?

[–] Event_Horizon5@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Naming the book would be a spoiler because the spoiler was already described. The only way to not spoil the book is to not know what book it is that was spoiled in the description.

[–] EfficaciousSkink@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mission of Gravity by Hal Clement has sentient centipede-like aliens. A very good book even 70 years later.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Centipede-like seems quite novel, definitely added to my list.

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The aliens in the Three-body Problem trilogy are never described, but the unofficial sequel, Redemption of Time, retroactively describes them as bugs with some hive mind, I think. It's interesting to go back to the trilogy with that in mind, as it really makes a lot of sense.

Dragon's Egg apparently has some hyperintelligent bug-like creatures that live on a neutron star in an accelerated time frame. I hear it's a good book, haven't gotten to it yet.

And I think The Chessmen of Mars has some spider-like things... I.e. aliens that look like spiders with large heads.

[–] Phlogiston@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Read dragons egg. It’s a little dated but a great story.

[–] AustralianSimon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Expeditionary force has spiders as the alpha race of the galaxy. 15 books.

[–] papajohn@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Have you read It by Stephen King? Not really Scifi but there is a spider in there!

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've read a couple of his books but never IT for some reason. I'm bound to get back on the Stephen King wagon eventually, I'll start with that one.

[–] papajohn@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh man, I totally forgot. Expeditionary Force is so good! Its funny like hitch hikers guide to the galaxy but more modern and the writing is not as clever. But there is a HUGE story arc dealing with super smart spiders. I listened to it and I’m pretty sure it was made for audiobooks first.

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

It's horror but I think It is some kinda extea diminisional being.

I guess what I'm saying is a lot of King's stories are horror but with a bit of sci-fi (Under the Dome and Dreamcatcher for instance probably cross the line into being Sci-fi tbh).