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Nothing more disappointing to me than seeing a game I might enjoy... and then it's only available on PC on Epic Games store. Why can't it be available on Epic, Xbox game store and Steam? It's so annoying, like you have no choice but to use Epic... which I would literally do ANYTHING not to use.

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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 26 minutes ago

Epic supports third party launchers

I think Steam is the only platform I avoid that works on Linux

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 16 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Know what happens when I find out a game is Epic exclusive? I don't buy it for a year... Sometimes ever. Enjoy the Epic money kings, hope it's worth it.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Epic did save me from wasting money on Borderlands 3, so I'll give them that.

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 10 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I feel the same, when the game is not available on GOG.

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I haven't tried GOG but their business model seems awesome. Do their games work on Linux / Mac?

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Depends on the game developers, if they offer/upload a Linux/Mac version. On Linux, you have to either install/update your games manually, or use a third-party client. Idk about Mac. Third party clients can also integrate Wine for Windows games.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

This makes actual sense tho since it's DRM free. Never understood the epic is evil but steam somehow is good. Both are DRM shills

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Well I can only speak for myself, but I prefer games stores in that order:

  1. GOG, because DRM free and they don't enforce game updates.
  2. Steam, because they are well integrated into the SteamDeck, they push Linux gaming, and Gabe seems to be an alright guy.
  3. Itch.io, because lots of indy games
  4. Epic Game store, good: free games, bad: Epic and Tim Sweeney.

There are business decisions with all of them that I dislike.

For the top dog PC game store, Valve could behave much much worse. Epic is still in the customer and game developer acquisition phase (and still behave like a d*ck with their exclusive deals), if the ever manage to push Valve aside, I believe they will be much worse.

[–] CowsSayPotato@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty sure this is a screenshot of the upcoming game Infinity Nikki and OP must have checked before they added the windows launcher for preload.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago

ding ding ding

I'm wondering if it will run on the Steamdeck I bought my daughter for Christmas.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 21 points 4 hours ago (10 children)

which I would literally do ANYTHING not to use.

Yar, me as well.

[–] DuckWrangler9000@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Yo ho ho, There is no sailing on the high seas when we are talking about multiplayer games! Alive service game, it be!

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[–] nieceandtows@programming.dev 4 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I haven't created an epic account even for the free games I don't care how many awesome games they give out for free. Fuck Epic

[–] Scolding7300@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Excuse my ignorance. What did Epic do?

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Exclusivity deals with companies.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yeah, they expressed that they wanted to join the online game store scene and the big feature they were offering to draw in users was... anticompetitive exclusivity deals!

Plus the company killed off the unreal tournament franchise because they didn't want it to compete with fortnite.

I have no interest in supporting a company that thinks removing options is the best way to get users to use their products.

It's the same shit that has turned streaming services from great back when it was new to now having content spread across many competing services. I'd rather they competed based on their own platform's features and advantages than the whole "if you want to watch x, you must use service y". It's just a series of mini monopolies.

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Imagine if they succeed with the exclusivity tactics, how other companies will respond to that? Doing the exactly same thing.

Let some years of exclusivity wars and the PC gaming will look like the streaming, a bunch of storefronts offering the same poor service and the clients doesn't know where to buy what they want because at any moment another exclusivity deal could be made and the entire library moved to another storefront, just like streaming.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Exactly. Oh and I also just remembered another angle: their anti-linux stance. They used to make games with native Linux support, but as I understand it, they've even removed Linux support from some games that already had it, trying to keep the Microsoft monopoly going. I wonder how much money ms is giving epic for that.

Same reason why a lot of the non-steam handhelds are non-starters for me. And yeah, I can live without games that depend on Windows kernel-level anti-cheat.

My backlog is so full I could keep entertained even if I ignore every single game I don't currently have in my steam library. Hell, I even ignore some that are there when I realized they have denuvo or something like that after buying and the refund window has already passed when I do notice.

[–] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 2 points 55 minutes ago

They used to make games with native Linux support, but as I understand it, they’ve even removed Linux support from some games that already had it, trying to keep the Microsoft monopoly going. I wonder how much money ms is giving epic for that.

Probably none, the CEO with the small dick energy just hate Steam so if Steam is pro Linux he will do the opposite of it.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 hour ago

Copying my reply to someone else:

Epic is anti-customer: https://medium.com/@unfoldgames/why-i-turned-down-exclusivity-deal-from-the-epic-store-developer-of-darq-7ee834ed0ac7

Tldr: Kickstarter Game with a lot of interest while in development announces a release date on Steam. After the date announcement they get contacted by Epic saying "we'd love to host your game" for an exclusivity deal.
Dev responds that they would be happy to have their game on Epic but promises were made during crowd funding that it would be available on Steam.
Epic replies that they aren't interested if it's not exclusive.

This tells me that

  1. Epic is full of shit. "We'd love to have your game, but only if it's exclusive.
  2. Epic doesn't care about being a better service for its customers. Having the game available on Epic as well is strictly better for Epic's customers and they easily could have done that. They chose not to.
  3. Epic is not interested in actually having to compete with other companies. This would require them to provide a better service in some fashion. They are only interested if they can force people "if you want to purchase this game you have to buy it through us" which is anti-consumer.
[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

But One Must Fall 2097 was pretty sweet

[–] Damaskox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I tried GTA5 when I made an account there. The game was given free. Didn't play for long though, and I dislike the idea of having more than Steam. (I have GOG for Sims but I don't use that either)

I tried Rocket League at work. It is fun and I'd like to continue at home...but opening up that Epic Store kinda is a turn-off for the deal.

[–] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 10 points 4 hours ago

It doesn't upset me. It helps me decide which games to avoid wasting my time and money on.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 25 points 5 hours ago

Exclusives of any kind are bullshit marketing ploys, at best.

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