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[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

No Android Auto+CarPlay is enough for me to never buy one lol. I’m never paying a subscription on a car lmao.

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 41 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I bought this before I found out Elon was crazy. Man has always been insane, we just weren't listening yet.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Yep. Elons always been a massive piece of shit.

The idiots who've spent the past decade slobbing all up and down his knob have just willfully turned a blind eye to it cause they subjugated themselves to his derranged cult of personality, that was built all around the idea of his "saviour of humanity" bullshit with regards to his stupid rockets and electric cars.

[–] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Along those lines, the sticker shop from the story has since come out with one that says "I bought this before we knew Elon was crazy."

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm just glad Tesla costs more than I can afford. Makes it very easy for the vast majority of us poor plebes to continue to not own one.

I so wanted a Chevy Bolt though.

[–] 2ugly2live@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

Yeah. My lack of income saves me from a lot of scams I'm too poor for 😂

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago

Why do they buy cars? To make political statements or to pollute less?

It's not like Elon Hunk himself is creating these cars with his hands

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 97 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I try not to judge Tesla drivers too much since plenty of them bought in before Elon went full mask-off in support of fascism, but if you own a Cybertruck you were 100% aware of what you were supporting when you bought it and I will absolutely judge you for that poor financial decision. Fucking Cyberdorks.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

People who own Cybertrucks might as well fly giant Trump and Elon flags. Fuck every single one of them.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I call them Cyberbacks. They aren't trucks they are bloated hatchbacks.

[–] AhismaMiasma@lemm.ee 5 points 2 hours ago

They genuinely look like city dumpsters from behind. Saw a green one, thought it would be a good place to dump my bottles and cans.

[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 16 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (3 children)

Let's be real - all the car companies are owned by terrible people. If it's not Elon, it's some other soulless capitalist who pushed subsidies and lower efficiency standards for mega trucks that speed up global warming just as we're supposed to be slowing it down.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yeah, not all people who do bad things are equal. I can't think of many worse people in this world than Elon, and his husband Donald Trump.

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 hour ago

Exactly, why even try? Just give up and say fuck the world.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 16 points 4 hours ago

This is often my thought process when I have to interact with a big company. If I never did any business that would benefit a bad person, I’d basically have to live in a hut in the woods.

However, there are degrees. For years I was sure a model 3 performance would be the perfect next car for me, but now like many people I don’t think I’ll ever be able to stomach owning a Tesla. The Musk connection has blown way past being embarrassing, and now buying one of those damn cars feels like supporting or at least accepting some horrible parts of humanity.

It’s not even a matter of hurting Musk’s bottom line, even though that would be nice. It’s about self respect, trying to put positivity into people’s lives instead of negativity, and being able to look my kid in the eye when he’s an adult and remembers the fucked up years we’re about to endure. I want absolutely zero to do with normalizing fascism and bigotry, even when it comes to something so mundane as the logo on my car.

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 99 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

It may be unfair, but I've been increasingly judgemental of Tesla drivers, especially over the past 4 or 5 years. He used to just be a joke when he was tweeting edgelord stuff like his nightstand and trying to have images scrubbed from the internet of when he was still bald. Model S, model 3, model X (s3x, hur dur). Then I was made angry by the hyperloop and his distracting, unproductive impact of the way America thinks about mass transit. Then I got mad about Starlink, first as extremely expensive, dystopian sky litter. Then as a frightening glimpse at communication control in places with civil unrest/protest. Then he bought twitter, and did a hilariously bad job at running it. Installing a cartoonishly bad sign on his building and whatnot. Naming it something idiotic. Then helping bring Trump back from the dead. Then everything he has done in the 2024 election cycle. I don't know how people can stand to be associated with Elon and all the he represents in any way. It would be like driving around in a Jimmy Savile-mobile.

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I judge people in Tesla's, especially 3 and y the same way I used to judge bmw drivers. I must assume they are a dumbass and going to do something dangerous because they often do. Wonder what percentage of Tesla drivers used to have beamers.

[–] sudoshakes@reddthat.com 8 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I bought one when no other option for an EV really existed for reasonable range batteries.

I have never owned a luxury car. My other car is a Honda accord from 2016.

I would be happy to have any other car brand, but the cost to replace the car with a different EV of similar range would cost us $30k. Is it really that important to harm yourself financially to signal to others your preferences for a person?

[–] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

For me it’s less about signaling to other drivers. It’s more about not giving Elon money.

[–] sudoshakes@reddthat.com 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Ok, but we already gave him the money 5 years ago.

So, what changes by selling it?

[–] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] sudoshakes@reddthat.com 1 points 2 hours ago

What does that have to do with the comment I was responding to then?

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 39 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Because I bought a $60k car in 2018 that still works fine, and replacing a fully functional vehicle is a huge expense to undertake.

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 33 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

I acknowledge that it's unfair, but I'm judging you. Everyone driving in a Tesla looks like a rube at best, tacky and vain at least, or a contributor to fascism at worst. Perhaps you might consider a bumper sticker, haha.

[–] pbbananaman@lemmy.world -1 points 3 hours ago

People that are buying the stickers are rubes. I don’t care what you think and anyone with an ounce of confidence shouldn’t either.

I’m convinced most of the anti Tesla rhetoric is coming from people who frankly are not Tesla (or any new car) customers anyway. If you’re actually in the market for an EV and want to compare range, charging network, dashboard UI+phone app quality (yes, all standard automakers are shit at software development, maybe hire people in SV), cost, vehicle options, maintenance + repair options (Tesla service isn’t run by the garbage dealership model and is actually good service and fairly priced) — then Tesla has been a clear winner for many years.

Feel free to go back to your dealership and waste half a day trying to buy a car. Every one else is still so far behind and if you get it, you get it.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure that if major stockholders of the other auto brands were in the spotlight as much as Musk is, we'd see that they're just as terrible

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 hours ago

First off, absolutely. None of these CEOs got where they are by acts of kindness. But there in lies the rub. Musk is in the spotlight. In a very real way, with his purchase of Twitter, he has actually become the spotlight itself. And he is vocally championing hateful rhetoric, and he is bankrolling an existential threat to America/democracy/the planet. The icon that is Tesla is inexorably linked to Musk, and lately Musk is shaping up to be America's Goebbels.

[–] LimeZest@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 12 hours ago

The stickers do help, I have seen one before and then I remember how it was exciting in the early days that someone was very publicly making a big push to introduce a viable alternative to internal combustion engines. We know a lot more now about Musk and Tesla than we did back when the first cars rolled out. A lot of the early Tesla owners probably meant well and it doesn’t help that nearly all the infrastructure (at least in my area) is car-only and hostile towards other forms of transit.

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[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Because people either don't care or don't care enough to pay more for another EV

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

This isnt 2002.

EVs from other car makers are both cheaper, and better built, than any Tesla. The Market has left Teslas and their bullshit in the dust.

[–] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Then people who buy a Tesla in 2024 simply suck. A bad product for a high price produced by an imbecile. It's not easy to get scammed 3 times at once

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

Tesla has always been that, dude.

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 94 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Elon has always been crazy.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 109 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

He used to be better at keeping his mouth shut.

[–] CobblerScholar@lemmy.world 69 points 19 hours ago

He used to have less airtime

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 12 points 15 hours ago

If you listened (as most of us in tech did) he's been fucking batshit since the PayPal days.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 48 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

He left trumps orbit last time he was president because Trump withdrew from the Paris Accord.

Now he doesn't give a fuck about that or similar things.

He's definitely more crazy / things changed.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

He used to depend on that climate money and press for his car business.
Now he can shovel tax money directly into his own pocket, so he doesn't need to pretend anymore.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

He never cared about climate change change, he just cared about his company getting bigger.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

That used to be enough. If the market can steer billionaire behavior toward good, we should let it. I can accept that someone who is inherently bad can do good.

But then, he started all this alt right nonsense. He either wholely believes in it, making him trash, or he doesn't, and he's doing it anyway because he thinks it's best for his company, which IMHO is somehow way worse, or at least an indicator that things in general are way worse.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 86 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (5 children)

I wonder if I could make money selling body kits to make your Tesla look like a different car... 🤔

"Hey... Does that Prius look a bit off?"

Cybertruck with a Prius shell drives by

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 hours ago

warthog shell for the cybertruck.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Cybertruck with a cardboard box over it, full Snake.

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