chapotraphouse

For punishments to be just, they must be merited, consistently enforced, predictable, and proportionate.

Perhaps showing support, even accidentally, for reactionary views might merit punishment. However, this punishment is likely not consistently enforced, and the rule is not stated anywhere on the website.

Most importantly, any kind of ban for a single upbear from a user with no prior pattern of behaviour is entirely disproportionate to the wrongdoing. It blows my mind that anyone could consider it an appropriate response.

I'll say it again here. Admins need to get their shit together and stop with the bullshit. I've caught strays on nonsense over the last couple weeks twice now and it's starting to piss me off. This is how you kill a website with nearly no growth.

If you want to see my full explanation of all this, just go into my post history and see what I said in the other thread.

admins not beating the arbitrary rulings on their fiefdom allegations

death to upvotes

upbear to join the upbear abolition league

together we can make the site more fun to use and more relaxing!

if 30 or more users upbear, the upbear abolition league will receive a cool forum signature type banner to put at the end of each of their posts!!!

(this is not a bit btw, these events have confirmed my undying hatred for internet points)

deeply grateful for your attempt to remove the struggle session from my replies ❤️😭

you are literally trying to fall on a sword for me here, and it is incredibly kind of you and so much more than I deserve

thank you for being such a gigantic sweetie pie. idk what I can ever do to repay your kindness, but please know that I will never forget this and never stop trying to make it up to you.

what did I miss

you ever notice the two wolves emojis are actually sized differently at the neck? You can't make a dogdog. Also we can't make catdog either.

When I saw the bans I assumed at least some due diligence had been done to ensure it was a pattern of behaviour. I wasn't around then, but I know during transphobe purges people's voting patterns were used, and that went well. So I thought it'd be the same here. Patterns.

Banning for one upvote in one thread isnt a pattern and doesn't prove shit.

I didn't really read the original post. I skimmed before bed. I've seen people say it was unacceptable fash shit along the lines of "sacrifice minorities to please fascists this will end well." If people agree with that they should probably fuck off, and I wouldn't be against banning them. But an upvote doesn't always mean agreement. Not consistently enough to ban based on it anyway, the friendly fire rate would be very high.

If they banned based on having complete knowledge of the beliefs of users reading it, then it wouldn't be an issue for me. But the upvote button doesn't represent that.

sorry i just clocked out of work. what did i miss?

Locking this as it is becoming hostile.

We won't be issuing sitebans on a single upvote alone going forward, but it can and will be used with other upvotes/posts/comments.

A larger post will be coming shortly

Normally I wouldn't bother to get pushy about this, but if I'm doin' time I may as well do the crime:

I still haven't heard Amber make the kind of bad take that would justify the anger she generates.

the what

Can we switch to phpbb