Because with stuff like this you cannot simply say "everyone should know better" they don't know btr, they don't care, they don't understand. For a myriad of reasons people will always do stuff counter to best logic, so you cannot ask them to. The only practical way to prevent stuff like this is through regulation and a government that serves the people. Lol it's nice to dream.
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Yeah, and also even if there's smart people doing it, it doesn't matter. Supposed 10% of people don't use Amazon, as long as 90% are fine, it won't affect them. Most people won't look beyond "it costs me less", the whole reason thing like temu is widespread is exactly that. People don't care about other people, ethics of things, or even the long term effects of their actions. They just see low price vs high price on everyday setting.
If a chain restaurant gave half price food for a year in a loss to take out all local businesses people would gladly buy it. And then when everything is gone and that chain raises price because there's no competition they'll just blame other people, economy, whatever they can find.
In many cases it also comes from the side that people can't afford to spend more money for the right reasons. Many people are living paycheck to paycheck, and those that aren't, are still not well off and want to save as much money as they can for retirement/emergencies. You can't count on anyone except yourself for your future, so they'll take whatever costs them less now.
If a chain restaurant gave half price food for a year in a loss to take out all local businesses people would gladly buy it. And then when everything is gone and that chain raises price because thereβs no competition theyβll just blame other people, economy, whatever they can find.
Nice summarization of modern day capitalism, this is pretty much the play book. Operate on a loss and Survive off of investments until you have created a monopoly, then the price is whatever you want, use your newfound endless wealth to pay the government to create fake consumer protections that's only goal is to increase the startup capital required to attempt to compete with you thus securing your monopoly, all while the poorest people have all of their money transferred to the people with too much money.
Then you have people come around with this unwise narrative that people need to just "choose with their wallets" like somehow you can convince enough people, who are at a majority financially unstable because of unregulated capitalism, to spend more money than they have, to stop capitalism. I totally understand where they're coming from with this, but sadly it just serves the capitalists by placing the blame for their gross greed on the people instead of on them. Its the same thing with consumer recycling agendas when global warming was a new concept, its redirecting the blame onto the wrong people.
Building electric car charging stations without security cameras.
About 75% of the chargers are disabled in my city. The primary method of disabling them is roll up with a sawzall and just chop the cable off. Gets you $5 worth of crack, which is always a nice incentive structure when thereβs unguarded copper lying around.
The only chargers that survive are in front of 24 hour businesses.
A person is smart. People, not so much.
Great movie
Believing public figures on camera, or on a dais with a mic in front of them.
It's not about "smart" vs "dumb." People's ideas are shaped by their Class Interests and Material Coniditons.
They'd stop believing people are stupid, especially those they disagree with, and realize that their differences are mostly made up by the ruling class to keep them in line.
Stop generalising groups of people.
I cannot think of a proper example rn, but I see this everywhere.
meme example
group a does x
also group a: says something contradicting x
This happens across the board, not only in political topics.
If people were really smart, how would they post insults to make them less obvious?
Thinking that they have the "one simple trick" for everything when most matters are actually a complex network of issues where there isn't one answer.
And not counting for the variables like what could go wrong, short-term gains, long-term gains .etc
You're not getting cashback on your credit cards yous daft cunts π You're paying it in advance
they would stop wasting their money
Stop driving (pollution, deaths, cost of living etc) and remodel cities and town around PT and AT , restricted gun ownership
How do people living with no PT or AT options stop driving?
Also, the working masses must remain armed to prevent even further class slavery.
I've joined three different unions and the only guns I've used were loaned to me by a representative of my country for a short period decades ago.
Okay I still can't go anywhere without a car tho
OP mentioned remodeling cities around public transport, I think that also goes for more rural areas. There's a solution for every scale : metro, bus, train, shuttle, etc.
I agree there are solutions, I have lived in places with great options. But getting things changed here is very slow and for now you still can't walk or bike, and there are no buses or trains.
Stop. Electing. Fraudsters.
Especially when the fraudster is a convicted felon.
I'm doing better now, but 15 years ago Walmart was the only option I had for food. Local/regional grocery stores were more expensive and I was living paycheck to paycheck with growing debt.
"If people were smart they would stop buying the most cost-efficient option" is really not feasible.
"If people were smart" they would read and stop putting oligarchs in power.
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Ignoring the fact that alternative voting systems exist and there can be more then two political parties.
That we haven't learned more from history and keep making the same mistakes over and over.
They'd stop doing capitalism. Entirely. If people in the US were smart, they would have been the vanguard of the communist revolution in the late 1800s when Marxist ideas were starting to spread in the us.
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Voting for fascists/not voting
They would understand that socialism is not communism. Also you can have capitalism and socialism at the same time, you just have to give and take a little.
They would understand that socialism is not communism.
Socialism has so many definitions that this can be subjectively true or false. This isn't even some trivial gotcha, the terms were used interchangeably even by significant writers of the 1800s. For another example, a socialist mode of production and a capitalist mode of production are contradictory.
If one wants to make these kind of broad claims without starting pointless arguments, they'll need to use a more specific term than 'socialism'.
You're wrong about literally all of that.
Op probably thinks socialism == Scandinavian welfare states. Most online USA midwits donβt know the difference
That's what I think of about socialism. The democratic socialist Scandinavian countries
The ones that explicitly state they are not socialist?
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